Possible the lowest MAX at 2.9MB

[chris76leeds]

I've read with interest the posts that people have put about speed problems, and tryed a few things to improve. With not much luck. I didnt start off well when BT said that they were putting a new line in I thought wow great new cables - oh i was wrong - what they actually meant was that there was a shabbing old line already coming to the house that had never been hooked up inside...

anyway that aside... i switched from a virgin media connection that averaged at 4MB to MAX realistically hoping to get about 6MB which is what they advised. I get about a 42db attentuation and so am about 3.3KM ? or so from the exchange. I am on ADSL2 (which I think is good?)...

but still I'm only getting about 2.9MB which is really poor I think considering...

here are detailed stats - I would really appreciate any thoughts? Thanks

/usr/sbin/adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime Channel: FAST, Upstream rate = 764 Kbps, Downstream rate = 2938 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: ADSL2+
Channel: Fast
Trellis: ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.5 12.0
Attn(dB): 46.5 27.7
Pwr(dBm): 1.3 12.4
Max(Kbps): 2972 864
Rate (Kbps): 2938 764
G.dmt framing
K: 14(0) 24
R: 12 16
S: 16 8
D: 32 8
ADSL2 framing
MSGc: 33 68
B: 13 23
M: 16 8
T: 11 1
R: 12 16
S: 2.4236 7.7037
L: 779 216
D: 32 8
Counters
SF: 56986 56984
SFErr: 1 1
RS: 1527948 484364
RSCorr: 353 0
RSUnCorr: 3 0

HEC: 1 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 6419026 1653498
Data Cells: 57027 15324
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 5 1
SES: 5 0
UAS: 14 17
Total time = 15 min 45 sec
SF = 56986
CRC = 1
LOS = 7
LOF = 0
ES = 5
Latest 1 day time = 15 min 45 sec
SF = 56986
CRC = 1
LOS = 7
LOF = 0
ES = 5
Latest 15 minutes time = 45 sec
SF = 2831
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 54155
CRC = 1
LOS = 7
LOF = 0
ES = 5
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
SF = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0

[richone54]

SNR (dB): 6.5 12.0
Attn(dB): 46.5 27.7
Pwr(dBm): 1.3 12.4
Max(Kbps): 2972 864
Rate (Kbps): 2938 764

your att on ADSL2+ is 46.5, you could try using mosseywells utility to change from ADSL2+ to G.DMT which may improve things (and may drop your att back a bit), also see cabling and face plate forum for idears about improving your internal wiring (doing a comparison from the BT test socket (if you have one) would be a good start

[chris76leeds]

thanks, i just noticed that stats say this Max(Kbps): 2972 864 does this means i have been capped?

[richone54]

thanks, i just noticed that stats say this Max(Kbps): 2972 864 does this means i have been capped?

afaik, it would be the figure below the max that would show if you were capped (i.e if your max figure was 8096 but your rate never went higher than 3024, then that would suggest you gave been capped) also most of the time when people are capped there SNR will go higher
looks more like a line problem to me (but i have been wrong before) have you tried your test socket (if you have a NTE5 master socket ) ?

[richone54]

also have a look at first link in my sig and look for mognuts utility, this is where you will be able to change your line from adsl2+ to G.dmt
as this is only a script that runs on the router you will not do any damage and the chage will revert back if re-booted

[chris76leeds]

tryed switching to g.dmt and it moved to just over 3MB, but i switched it back; by rebooting the router. the speed has now jumped to 5.2MB - back on ADSL+2 - bizzare . Am going to try the sockets also now

/usr/sbin/adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime Channel: FAST, Upstream rate = 764 Kbps, Downstream rate = 5214 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: ADSL2+
Channel: Fast
Trellis: ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.1 12.0
Attn(dB): 46.5 27.7
Pwr(dBm): 1.3 12.4
Max(Kbps): 5328 864
Rate (Kbps): 5214 764
G.dmt framing
K: 12(0) 24
R: 8 16
S: 16 8
D: 64 8
ADSL2 framing
MSGc: 57 68
B: 11 23
M: 16 8
T: 14 1
R: 8 16
S: 1.1713 7.7037
L: 1366 216
D: 64 8
Counters
SF: 17031 17029
SFErr: 3 1
RS: 938868 144746
RSCorr: 305933 0
RSUnCorr: 6 0

HEC: 2 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 3385178 495384
Data Cells: 116401 22873
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 2 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 14 21
Total time = 4 min 54 sec
SF = 17031
CRC = 3
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 2
Latest 1 day time = 4 min 54 sec
SF = 17031
CRC = 3
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 2
Latest 15 minutes time = 4 min 54 sec
SF = 17031
CRC = 3
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 2
Previous 15 minutes time = 0 sec
SF = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
SF = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0

[chris76leeds]

have managed to get up to a 6.8MB max rate by:

changign to g.dmt and by using the test socket in the plate

any further thoughts are welcome? does my error rate look ok? or you think the physcial line might just be rubbish too?

ta - chris

/usr/sbin/adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime Channel: INTR, Upstream rate = 768 Kbps, Downstream rate = 6944 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: G.DMT
Channel: Interleave
Trellis: ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 7.3 13.0
Attn(dB): 43.0 28.5
Pwr(dBm): 19.7 9.9
Max(Kbps): 7552 1184
Rate (Kbps): 6944 768
G.dmt framing
K: 218(0) 25
R: 16 16
S: 1 8
D: 64 8
ADSL2 framing
MSGc: 1 1
B: 218 25
M: 1 8
T: 1 1
R: 16 16
S: 1.0730 8.6153
L: 1752 208
D: 64 8
Counters
SF: 18112 18110
SFErr: 0 0
RS: 1231686 153935
RSCorr: 275 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 5044043 0
Data Cells: 413980 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 31 0
Total time = 5 min 53 sec
SF = 18112
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
Latest 1 day time = 5 min 53 sec
SF = 18112
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 5 min 53 sec
SF = 18112
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 0 sec
SF = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
SF = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0

[richone54]

post back tonight(only 5 mins stats), just to check your errors, looks good so far (i take you are using the test socket now?)

[chris76leeds]

thanks for your continued help. I had left PC on for hours, but DAMN the connection lost and it redirected to my old virgin media connection that hasnt disabled yet. but here are some stats over a longer period of time - do you think the trend looks nothign to worry about?

I tryed the socket but didn't make much difference, so I think i'm on with the wire and faceplate issues

/usr/sbin/adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime Channel: FAST, Upstream rate = 764 Kbps, Downstream rate = 6688 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: ADSL2+
Channel: Fast
Trellis: ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 5.4 11.5
Attn(dB): 46.5 27.7
Pwr(dBm): 1.3 12.4
Max(Kbps): 6840 864
Rate (Kbps): 6688 764
G.dmt framing
K: 14(0) 24
R: 8 16
S: 16 8
D: 64 8
ADSL2 framing
MSGc: 59 68
B: 13 23
M: 16 8
T: 15 1
R: 8 16
S: 1.0666 7.7037
L: 1740 216
D: 64 8
Counters
SF: 333469 333467
SFErr: 25 1
RS: 20320810 2834469
RSCorr: 30480 0
RSUnCorr: 220 0

HEC: 16 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 85483128 9753765
Data Cells: 11141936 8131454
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 17 1
SES: 4 0
UAS: 14 19
Total time = 1 hours 30 min 39 sec
SF = 333469
CRC = 25
LOS = 9
LOF = 0
ES = 17
Latest 1 day time = 1 hours 30 min 39 sec
SF = 333469
CRC = 25
LOS = 9
LOF = 0
ES = 17
Latest 15 minutes time = 39 sec
SF = 2399
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 55374
CRC = 5
LOS = 1
LOF = 0
ES = 3
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
SF = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
15 minutes interval [-30 min to -15 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 55373
CRC = 2
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 1
15 minutes interval [-45 min to -30 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 55373
CRC = 8
LOS = 1
LOF = 0
ES = 5
15 minutes interval [-60 min to -45 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 55374
CRC = 6
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 3

[richone54]

Hi Chris,

i am getting a bit confused, i have been asking you to do different things and poss not in the correct order:
these are the router stats from your last post:

SNR (dB): 5.4 11.5
Attn(dB): 46.5 27.7
Pwr(dBm): 1.3 12.4
Max(Kbps): 6840 864
Rate (Kbps): 6688 764

Could we start again (sorry about this) are the above stats from the normal connection (master / extention) the first thing we should have done is to try the test socket, could you do another test from this socket and post back (just the bit above) what i will be looking for is the SNR to go up and to see if your attn goes down

i am sorry about this , but the way i seem to have sent you round the houses makes it difficult to pinpoint any specific problems