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    Sky Line - Full LLU or Shared?

    This is a discussion on Sky Line - Full LLU or Shared? within the Sky Talk forums, part of the Other Sky help and support category; Hey, I'm having trouble as I can't find much information about how this is working. We've just ordered a Sky ...

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      Sky Line - Full LLU or Shared?

      Hey,
      I'm having trouble as I can't find much information about how this is working. We've just ordered a Sky package in which the line rental is paid to Sky as well as being on a SkyTalk call plan - Not the best idea, but I wasn't consulted.
      We want our broadband with Be (same back network as O2 broadband) and I'm quite unsure as to how this is going to work.
      Does Sky full LLU the line if there is no broadband service ordered, or does it allow shared so Be can LLU the data side of the line?
      I'm going to phone Sky in the morning and try and request it not to be, but before I do, has anyone here had any experience with this sort of setup?

      Thanks loads guys,
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      Re: Sky Line - Full LLU or Shared?

      The quick answer is Sky have both. Originally Sky used a shared voice network but they're currently in the process of installing their own referred to as Sky Voice & Broadband Network (SVBN). Existing customers had the chance to opt-out over a month ago, so you may be lucky and be able to move to another ISP for broadband whilst still keeping you telephone with Sky as they may have not yet upgraded your exchange, but do so quick or that option may soon disappear.

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      Re: Sky Line - Full LLU or Shared?

      We aren't so lucky unfortunatly ... We are defiantly going onto the SVBN as our exchange is active, but I know that when a company, Sky for e.g. take control of your line (LLU) they can either take control of the whole line, or just take control of the voice. Do you know which of these they do?

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      Re: Sky Line - Full LLU or Shared?

      If you have line rental it's the whole line I think.

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      Re: Sky Line - Full LLU or Shared?

      Quote Originally Posted by iamacarpetlicker View Post
      We aren't so lucky unfortunatly ... We are defiantly going onto the SVBN as our exchange is active, but I know that when a company, Sky for e.g. take control of your line (LLU) they can either take control of the whole line, or just take control of the voice. Do you know which of these they do?
      I though I explained that, they do both at the moment.

      If you got onto Sky's new network (SVBN) then Sky will have exclusive control on your voice line using their MPF (Full Metallic Path Facilities). If you're not on SVBN, either because Sky haven't updated the exchange yet or you previously opted out, then your on a shared LLU service (SMPF), ie, Sky only control your broadband on their equipment, the voice is shared with the BT network.

      Obviously, the above only is relevant if you take Sky Line Rental.

      To find out whether you're on SVBN, dial 17070 and if you get the option of using the BT test facilities then you're still on the BT network.

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      Re: Sky Line - Full LLU or Shared?

      I am fairly sure that new customers taking Sky Phone Rental do not have the right to opt out of going on the SVBN. This was a privilege accorded to existing customers only. There is no way another provider can go on your line. If you want out of it, it will cost you, as another poster has discovered.

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