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    a few questions

    This is a discussion on a few questions within the Sky Router forums, part of the Sky Broadband help category; i have just installed the F@ST2504n and its not as good as i had hoped for. first i cant seem ...

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      a few questions

      i have just installed the F@ST2504n and its not as good as i had hoped for. first i cant seem to select n as the mode. this surley cant be right. also the signal is no better than the last sky router. any ideas


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      Re: a few questions

      For some reason it doesn't list N in the options. On my router it is set to AUTO and my devices are always connected at the full N speed 144. What is yours set to?

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      Re: a few questions

      Remember to get N speed, you need an N rated adapter. You will see no difference if your adapter is G rated.

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      Useful Utilites

      https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wifi_information_view.html/ TCPOptimiser /Test Socket

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      Re: a few questions

      Whoever composed the firmware for Sky's Sagem 2304n and Sagem 2504N routers failed to get someone to proof check the GUI. Both of the routers do not show a clear option in the WiFi speed that shows 72mbps (2304n) or 144mbps (2504N).

      With both routers you need to select "54G Auto" or "54G Performance" to get the highest broadcast speed.

      You can check what speed is being broadcast by using software such as inSSIDer.

      Next you need to have the right WiFi adaptor to benefit from the connection speed. It isn't just a case of using a WiFi n adaptor, but one that will connect at up to the max speed. Many will connect at 65mb/s, for example. When I looked in the shops last summer, many Laptops and Netbooks on sale would only connect at up to 150mb/s when using a router which broadcasts using paired channels.

      However, like the BT HomeHub v3, the Sagem 2504N broadcasts on a single channel at it's full speed. If you have an adaptor which would connect at up to 150mbps on a paired channel, it will only connect at up to 72mb/s on the Sagem 2504N.

      Is it complicated? Hopefully not once you understand what is going on.

      Is it misleading? WiFi n covers a range of speeds and allows for the pairing of channels on both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz frequencies, but starts at 65mbps on the 2.4GHz channels. WiFi n goes up to 450mbps when a router uses 3 channels, but you will need a router and an adaptor to support this.

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      Hi,

      Just came up with the same issue of only 72mbps on at 2504n - much dissapointment i can tell you! Best i can have till Sky get round to Fibre in my area.

      Anyway - how does one go about identifying what the capabilities on the network device? i have one built into a new dell laptop and another on a mini usb adapter. is there a simple way of identifying if they can recieve at 144?

      thanks

      (first post!!)

      Will

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      Re: a few questions

      Quote Originally Posted by Will71 View Post
      Just came up with the same issue of only 72mbps on at 2504n - much dissapointment i can tell you! Best i can have till Sky get round to Fibre in my area.

      Anyway - how does one go about identifying what the capabilities on the network device? i have one built into a new dell laptop and another on a mini usb adapter. is there a simple way of identifying if they can recieve at 144?
      If the adaptor is capable of achieving 300mbps (or more) on the 2.4GHz channels, then it should connect at up to 144mbps on the Sagem 2504N.

      From what I saw when looked last summer, most adaptors shipped with Netbooks and Laptops were capable of only supporting up to 72mbps on a single channel. Any faster requires a router which woks at up to 300mbps. The same Notebooks and laptops would then connect at 150mbps on the dual channel.

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      Re: a few questions

      Streangely the laptop has now been going between 72 and 130, but usually settles at 130. i brought it closer to the router to see if its a signal thing, but not made any difference. strange! its an intel 1030n adapter in a dell. that lappy isnt doing anything too intense, so i guess it will be fine. better than the 54 i was getting before today!

      Trying to find out details on the mini adapter now.

      I have another laptop that i have an n 300mbps expresscard coming today. glad i want for that one!

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      Re: a few questions

      mmm....the mini adapter says 150 in its blurb, from what you say that means the most i am going to get on it is 72. confusing to say the least.

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      is the main issue here the fact that the router is running at 2.4ghz instead of 5?

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      Re: a few questions

      Quote Originally Posted by Will71 View Post
      mmm....the mini adapter says 150 in its blurb, from what you say that means the most i am going to get on it is 72. confusing to say the least.

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      Take a look at the thread linked below. It was an attempt by me to explain many of the different WiFi system currently in use:

      http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/techn...on-speeds.html

      The Addon NWU275 will connect at 150mb/s on a paired channel. The NWU280, NWU281 and NWU285 will all connect at up to 300mbps on a paired channel and they should connect at up to 144mbps on a single channel.

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      There are alternative WiFi dongles available too. Netgear has a range that will connect to either 2.4GHz or 5GHz channels, for example, at 300mbps or more when a suitable router is present.

      Quote Originally Posted by Will71 View Post
      is the main issue here the fact that the router is running at 2.4ghz instead of 5?
      The connection speed has nothing to do with the 5GHz channels. I put that in in case someone had an adaptor which doesn't work on the 2.4GHz channels as 5GHz is becoming more popular. The Sky router only works on the 2.4GHz channels.

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