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    Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ?

    This is a discussion on Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ? within the Sky Router forums, part of the Sky Broadband help category; Hi Guys, I am currently using a SKY Netgear DG834GT with DGTEAM firmware installed V1.03.22 - DGTeam Rev. 1018 with ...

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      Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ?

      Hi Guys,

      I am currently using a SKY Netgear DG834GT with DGTEAM firmware installed V1.03.22 - DGTeam Rev. 1018 with the 023o ADSL driver.

      With the SNR Percentage set at 100% (default) I am getting the following results

      ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
      Connection Speed 13015 kbps 1065 kbps
      Line Attenuation 29.0 db 17.8 db
      Noise Margin 7.4 db 8.0 db

      If I set the SNR Percentage at 1% get the following results

      ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
      Connection Speed 16377 kbps 1058 kbps
      Line Attenuation 29.0 db 17.8 db
      Noise Margin 1.4 db 7.9 db

      I have run at 1% SNR for 3 hours and got 141 CRC's

      If I run a trace to sky I get the following

      C:\Users\Jason>tracert sky.com

      Tracing route to sky.com [80.238.9.179]
      over a maximum of 30 hops:

      1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
      2 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms dr3.bllon.isp.sky.com [89.200.128.46]
      3 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms vl193.ar8.bllon.isp.sky.com [89.200.133.62]
      4 25 ms 26 ms 25 ms ip-89-200-130-101.ov.easynet.net [89.200.130.10
      ]
      5 55 ms 63 ms 52 ms ip-80-238-8-10.bskyb.com [80.238.8.10]

      So the Router at the exchange seems to be a Billion, as far as I can see ?? So would the 7800N have a suitable chipset ??

      I have my router plugged into the master socket and the bell and earth wires are disconnected and also there are no other extensions in the house. I also have an I Plate fitted as well and am using a high quality sheilded ADSL cable.

      I would like to get the best out of my connection possible, I have had a long chat with a CST engineer and my line is now set at 18mb he tells me, max delays are set to low as possible. Tried to get him to enable fastpath, he checked but said this has been removed so they can no longer enable it (thought it was worth a try).

      All my wireless devices are N so would benefit from that, just want to make sure if I do buy this then it will have the best compatibility with the exchange equipment.

      I am also thinking of getting a higher quality ADSL filter such as the XF-1e Professional ADSL 2+ Microfilter or a Superior Quality ADSL Filter from Tanmar. Assume they are better than the ones from SKY ?

      I am well aware I am not supposed to connect a non Sky router.

      Just after some advice if people think it is worth the money, also anyone who has a Billion 7800N can you adjust the SNR Percentage like you can with the DG Team firmware?

      Cheers in advance

      Jason


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      Re: Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ?

      You seem to be losing something somewhere as these are my stats.:-

      ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
      Connection Speed 15357 kbps 1113 kbps
      Line Attenuation 31.0 db 17.1 db
      Noise Margin 6.3 db 8.4 db

      So my attenuation is higher but so is my speed.

      Do you find the SNR adjustment actually sticks OK as I can run DGT firmware in my DGN2000 to do as you ?

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      Re: Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ?

      Quote Originally Posted by jcoles7 View Post
      Just after some advice if people think it is worth the money, also anyone who has a Billion 7800N can you adjust the SNR Percentage like you can with the DG Team firmware?
      You can adjust the SNR permanently just like what the DG-Team firmware offers. Plenty of other settings to mess around with. Buy it on-line so that you can return it if you don't like it.

      If you extensions (more then 1 socket) in your house, consider getting a filtered faceplate instead of a decent micro-filter.

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      Re: Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ?

      Hi Timc

      Quote Originally Posted by timc View Post
      Do you find the SNR adjustment actually sticks OK as I can run DGT firmware in my DGN2000 to do as you ?
      Yep seems to so far, only messed around with it for a bit but all ok so far.

      If you decide to I would use the one with the adsldrv023o.img one as the 26 version although newer does not seem to perform as well. Also make sure your wireless is turned off first and use an ethernet cable.

      Cheers Jason

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      Re: Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ?

      i have this router on sky bb and it's brilliant. far far better than anything sky give you.

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      Re: Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ?

      far far better than anything sky give you.
      At 120+ I should hope so, Sky probably buy 5 routers for that.

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      Re: Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ?

      Quote Originally Posted by EmperorK View Post
      i have this router on sky bb and it's brilliant. far far better than anything sky give you.
      Do you use Anytime+ with the router??

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      Re: Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ?

      Hi EmperorK

      I would also like to know if you are using Anytime + too.

      Cheers Jason

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      Re: Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ?

      I set one of these up at my parents house last week and Anytime+ works fine.

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      Re: Should I buy a Billion BiPAC7800N ?

      Quote Originally Posted by EmperorK View Post
      i have this router on sky bb and it's brilliant. far far better than anything sky give you.
      How are you connecting, PPPoA or Mer? Or piggy backed onto your Sky router?

      Pingtest: Line Quality A: Ping 48ms: Jitter 1ms: Server 50 mi
      Connection Speed: 5184/768: Attenuation: 31.5/52: Snr: 8/7.8

     

     
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