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    Yahoo's Security (or rather lack of)

    This is a discussion on Yahoo's Security (or rather lack of) within the Sky Email and Portal Log-in forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; reminds me of xkcd 936 xkcd: Password Strength...

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      Re: Yahoo's Security (or rather lack of)

      reminds me of xkcd 936

      xkcd: Password Strength


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      Re: Yahoo's Security (or rather lack of)

      Quote Originally Posted by seawright View Post
      I sometimes wonder if a strong password offers a false sense of security. A firm I used to work for used a security system called ????net. To check how secure it was the IT manager ran a brute force attack which was terminated after it produced an A4 printout of words all starting with the letter "A". Any of there words would be accepted as a valid system password. I was assured that the real password did not start with an "A". Needless to say a different security system is now in use.
      And that's half the problem, people assume hard passwords and extra password layers or some other extra security measure will make things safer. Something else is seriously wrong with yahoo mail systems. If they are able to bypass systems such as these, they were worse than useless, as the increased sense of security encourages trust with data.

      I've just had another call from someone who's yahoo mail has just been breached. Was a tech savvy person. Something is dreadfully wrong here. Bad time for SKY to be getting on board, and its not as if the signs weren't there. Very poor decision IMO.

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      Re: Yahoo's Security (or rather lack of)

      Another article from a few days back...

      Yahoo! webmail! hijacks! are! back!... ? The Register

      Strange thing is, if this were google, it would be all over the news, but with Yahoo, its kept pretty hush hush. Thats very bad for the user...

      Oh, and here's how its panning out over at bt! :

      BT email accounts hacked - BTCare Community Forums

      It's becoming clear none of this is the users fault, with some having dormant accounts that were still accesses "somehow"..

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      Re: Yahoo's Security (or rather lack of)

      I have raised this with someone within Sky. Currently I have no update that I can share.

      Whilst Sky are trying to be more open, I can understand their reluctance to provide too much specific information at this stage. I also think that Yahoo! would find it incredibly embarrassing should Sky change at this late stage to an alternative system.

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      Re: Yahoo's Security (or rather lack of)

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      I have raised this with someone within Sky. Currently I have no update that I can share.

      Whilst Sky are trying to be more open, I can understand their reluctance to provide too much specific information at this stage. I also think that Yahoo! would find it incredibly embarrassing should Sky change at this late stage to an alternative system.
      The problem with that is... Lots!!

      Reluctance to provide information is the same as withholding information. The actual data at risk is ours, not theirs. Whether it is your address book info, or perhaps the contents of emails themselves. Both are private and at the moment are at high risk of becoming public. Saying or doing nothing really shouldn't be an option!

      Secondly, who cares about yahoo's embarrassment? They are failing, and have been for months. If you had asked me if they were a good bet for sky's email 6 months ago I would have had serious reservations even then.

      It seems also a case of keeping shtum to avoid embarrassment and saving people's backs who have recommended this foolish move in the first place.

      I disagree there should be any silence. Look after your customers. Inform them about stuff when its important. Their personal mail is of utmost importance. Paramount. Yahoo's embarrassment is irrelevant.

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      Re: Yahoo's Security (or rather lack of)

      Quote Originally Posted by benaline View Post
      ...Look after your customers. Inform them about stuff when its important. Their personal mail is of utmost importance. Paramount. Yahoo's embarrassment is irrelevant.
      Yes I agree with you about what should be happening. I think that it is very disgusting.

      However I don't work for Yahoo! or Sky so I have no say in their policy over this.
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      Re: Yahoo's Security (or rather lack of)

      However I don't work for Yahoo! or Sky so I have say in their policy over this.
      I take it you meant you have no say Scubbie.

      If you do, you are going to be spammed by irate customers.
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      lol - oops!

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      Re: Yahoo's Security (or rather lack of)

      I will see if I can find out any information if yahoo accounts are being more hacked now than in the past and how they are doing it.

      But my guess is it is the same as they have been for years, brute force.

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      Re: Yahoo's Security (or rather lack of)

      Quote Originally Posted by BritBrat View Post
      I will see if I can find out any information if yahoo accounts are being more hacked now than in the past and how they are doing it.But my guess is it is the same as they have been for years, brute force.
      The problem is that as processing power increases and is likely to continue doing so in the future (Moore's law) brute force attacks become an ever more realistic threat.

     

     
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