Help wanted!!

[Scubbie]

Can you please then explain how jem16 has been switched an O2 connection to a Sky connection and is able to use the O2 router please?

Remember that I can see the IP Addresses and where previously jem16 was posting with an O2 IP Address, the posts now show a Sky IP Address.

[davews]

As I said, the O2 routers have two separate connections installed in them - one for O2 LLU and one for O2 Access, used for those exchanges which don't have LLU. The router tries to connect via each of these in turn till one connects. When on an O2 LLU line it will connect via the LLU settings. When it is connected to Sky LLU the Access settings will connect, which happens to be fully compatible with Sky. A clever trick.... It means that the switchover is fully automatic and no changes whatsoever are needed in firmware etc to the box.

[Hedgehog1979]

I was speaking to a customer today who has just moved from o2 and was using their Thomson o2 wireless box 2.

He had the correct lights to indicate he was connected but still would not connect, we had to log into the router and on the gui there were 2 options one for adsl and one for adsl2plus.

Next to thes was then an option to press connect which we did and it then connected without the need for any changes to be made although the customer said the router used to be connected to adsl2plus and now it had connected to adsl.




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[davews]

Yes, O2 LLU uses the adsl2plus connection, Sky uses the adsl one.

[Scubbie]

Sky Broadband Connect uses ADSL (1) (upto 8128kbps down, 448kbps up).

Sky Broadband Home Lite and Sky Broadband Unlimited both use ADSL2+ (upto 24mb down, ~1300kbps up).

[davews]

The 'adsl' settings in the O2 router connect as ADSL2+ on Sky unlimited, which is what most of us are being moved over. Whether you go on ADSL or ADSL2+ is determined by the exchange when you connect, not the router settings. For use with other routers you need to use the O2 Access settings given at the bottom of your linked page, the LLU settings will NOT work.

And I seem to be connected as ADSL+ at the moment (G992.1 Annex A) with 8Mbs down, 800kbs up, probably part of the training process.

[Scubbie]

I shall see if I can try a router of mine on a friend's connection at a later date.

He too has swapped from O2 to Sky and lives in an area that was served by O2's LLU kit.

I think that he still has the O2 routers laying around in a cupboard somewhere as well.

Of interest to you davews, where ADSL is forced on Sky's LLU kit, the connection speed won't necessarily be 448kbps up. That is something specific to the Connect package. If both the down and up speed are divisible by 32 then you have forced ADSL. ADSL2+ tends to be an odd number and rarely divisible by 32 when it isn't.

8128kbps down is the fastest an ADSL connection speed will be though.

[davews]

Yes, I have 7840 down 960 up, both divisible by 32.

[Isitme]

So the official O2 router connects to Sky with no need for changes. That's fine, but can you replace that router with one of your own? If not, there does not seem to be any advantage.

It looks like you are on ADSL or ADSL2 or you would not be syncing at the full rate. If you are on an LLUd exchange you should set the mode to ADSL2+. As you are not on the maximum download you may not get any more but your upload could improve to 1.1Mb.

[Hedgehog1979]

Even though the router was connected using adsl they were connected at over 13000 kb/s, I checked that just to make sure it had not affected the speed and there was no difference between the 2 connection types.


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