Latency increase switching to SKY

[snadge]

I just want to know how it works properly, so I can advise properly

Sky Knowledge Advisors and other 'tech' minded folk are telling already worried new users the wrong info, so i sought too find out the truth of how it all works because what I'm being told SHOULD happen to me DOESNT. people worried about MACs being told they dont need one too move onto SVBN when its not true (only if your coming from a fully unbundled provider like Talk Talk would you not require a mac) - and also telling them once phone is live their old ISP will go offline...its all rubbish, specially when moving using MAC, when all the users are concerned about is internet going down for length of time.

also, SKY need to change the sign up process so that it tells people to get a MAC before continuing because once the line request has been accepted by BT (next day) your ISP can not give out a mac code, but we all know why sky wont do that.. "hook,line & sinker" comes to mind hehe... they know the potential customers current ISP will attempt too match SKY's offer and tempt them not too switch...so its in SKY's interests too get people to sign up first, but the process is flawed!! look on their forums, loads of users saying "if i hadnt logged into track order i wouldnt have known I needed a mac code" and loads saying "ive just found out 7 days after signing up, via letter, that I need a mac code, my ISP can not give me one cos the line request has already gone through!" and SKY's solution is too cancel the order , wait 72 hours (so BT get the order cancellation), ISP gives MAC code..then re-sign up... i mean what a carry on, my sign up process said nothing more is required, if it is we will contact you and you have 15 days too supply the information, so just sit back & relax and let us do it all for you...something like that anyway

so whats supposedly happening here now with me is that my SKY phone line isnt really activated, it is just a BT rented line directed through to sky talk? and my line will go full SKY later? well its been 3 days now and i still get BT Line Test on 17070 so how long should it take? (remembering this is probably costing SKY more money this way, so in their best interest to change it over asap)

also, if SKY are moving phones first in this scenario then why did my letter say "if you entered mac code on day of order your broadband will go live first, if you did not enter the mac on day of order then your phone line will be activated first" - this means I had the opportunity to have my SVBN Broadband Unlimited to be activated before the Line was moved over to SKY, however I waited 6 days before entering the MAC code as o2 requested it, this delay caused them to be 1 day apart as the letter said broadband is usually 5-10 days (or was it 10-15) and phone is usually 3 weeks, if SKY were moving phone lines first then i would not have gotten that letter saying so?

I cant wait to see if 17070 stops working or gives me 'Zoe' hehe - is that what 17070 does on your SVBN phone line tom?

be great is a SKY rep and BTo rep could confirm all this instead of guess work.

[Isitme]

I cant wait to see if 17070 stops working or gives me 'Zoe' hehe - is that what 17070 does on your SVBN phone line tom?

Yes, she (or should I say it) says 'Hi, I'm Zoe, I'm here to make sure your phone service is the very best ...etc.' in a very patronising American accent.

[IWasNotTheEnemy]

@snadge

Everything I've mentioned was what I knew to be true after 3 YEARS working for Sky Broadband CST. As Tom has said, it was always the way that if moving to the SVBN you would have to wait for the line to go active BEFORE the Broadband order could be placed - meaning downtime between connections. This was why it was always advised to stick with BT as your line provider as to not lose your BB connection but still have SkyTalk as your phone option.

I left CST over 2 years ago so it would appear the process has changed and now the line doesn't have to be moved first before the BB can be provided (as said above). There is nothing more to be asked or answered otherwise it will just become confusing

Do you have a live BB connection with Sky? If you do - great! Stop worrying about it

[snadge]

i look forward to hearing it hehe

I wonder why this procedure exists?
where the SKY TALK is supplied over a BT line until SKY PHONE LINE is active..? because SURELY the engineer can move the BT line over to SKY LLU instead of activating SKY TALK over the BT line then having to come back later and move it over to SKY LLu....? seems a bit odd, creating two lots of work? - its like going to the shop for 2 items but only buying 1 knowing you will have to go back for the other.

@ IWasNotTheEnemy - Iam not worrying about it lol - as i already said iam trying to find out how it works ...being armed with the correct advice for other people is always the best! so i can tell other users in same boat YES they need a mac code (if on a BT controlled line) YES they will still be online when theyre phone line goes live - it has nothing to do with MY personal circumstances, iam simply using them as a means to justify whats happening with SKY migrations

so it would appear that they have indeed CHANGED the system which is what I suggested ages ago in my original thread about it, yet Sky Advisors still preach the same thing on their H&S Forums (this is why iam trying to find out whats what!)

[Isitme]

so it would appear that they have indeed CHANGED the system which is what I suggested ages ago in my original thread about it, yet Sky Advisors still preach the same thing on their H&S Forums (this is why iam trying to find out whats what!)

There is nothing unusual about that, the 'advisers' are often the last to hear of any changes. Sky don't like the left hand to know what the right hand is doing

[snadge]

There is nothing unusual about that, the 'advisers' are often the last to hear of any changes. Sky don't like the left hand to know what the right hand is doing

I can imagine lol....
ah well

[dj_smurph]

There is nothing unusual about that, the 'advisers' are often the last to hear of any changes. Sky don't like the left hand to know what the right hand is doing

The same with all big companies

[snadge]

do these Sky Knowledge Advisors (on their forums) work from home or in call center or what?

[Scubbie]

do these Sky Knowledge Advisors (on their forums) work from home or in call center or what?

They connect to the Official sky forum during working hours as that is a part of their job.

Some also use a specific account on this forum too.

[snadge]

They connect to the Official sky forum during working hours as that is a part of their job.

Some also use a specific account on this forum too.

ahh right so must be like call center staff that get put onto 'forum' duty (if you like).