Recommended Non-Sky Router

[Khristian]

Luck has nothing to do with it. Persistence does.

[IWasNotTheEnemy]

Not at all. You've in effect bullied someone into putting through a request which is against T&Cs of the Sky BB service. Any agent with half a mind would've told you where to go and, if you'd threatened to cancel, put you through to cancellations to do just that.

If it'd been me on the phone you wouldn't have got the logins

[Khristian]

And where did I state I bullied someone?

Actually, I made polite requests and got what I required.

I'd suggest in future that before you make spurious comments on what you assume someone did that you check your facts.

In relation to your comment that if it had been you on the phone, if indeed it had and you had been that obnoxious then you would of found yourself on the wrong side of a complaint.

[Scubbie]

Khristian, please don't let this thread degenerate into a slanging match.

Sky employees have been dismissed in the past for providing the log in details.

It sounds like you got lucky.

I personally would never advise another member to call Sky to get their log in details, I would always recommend that they look at the site on-line to help them.

This means that you don't get things lost in translation (such as upper & lower case letters) and no one has their job put at risk.

[Pengwern]

To be fair to Khristian, he hasn't violated the Ts and Cs, Sky have by not providing kit that is able to perform up to the task it was supplied for.

But going via the Executive Office, he has been granted an acceptance to use a non-Sky router.

By going to 2nd tier support, they are correct in not supplying details. But by going higher, and being persistent, then yes it can pay dividends.

[Khristian]

Oh I wouldn't, just stating my side.

As far as I am aware, and have been informed by High Level Escalations, and Exec Support. Sky are now willing to provide the details, but only to those who can demonstrate a good technical understanding and need for them. Of course it wont work for everyone.

Although as someone who works quite often, and very closely with Sky I have made my views clear internally (that anyone who wishes for them should have them as many users are willing to buy their own (usually better) equipment).

I admit when I first requested my details I got told no, then I was told you can use your own equipment but we will not provide details, then after querying it I was provided with details. it is quite hit and miss.

I should also point out that this was when Sky first started using the DSL-2640s which no one had cracked. If it had of already been done by then I wouldn't of bothered with asking Sky.

[Khristian]

Greetings once again peoples.

So I have now received and setup my nice new 7402NX.

I have also been tweaking the settings and currently have it set as:

Modulation: G.Dmt.BisPlusAuto
Profile Type: BT
Activate Line: true
Coding Gain: Inc1_5
TX Attenuation: Bis_0DB

I am now syncing at 4032 / 896 where as before this was 3072/896 so there is some improvement.

I have done the "port a1 show" command via Telnet and which returned the results below.

I am just wondering if anyone with more experience with these routers can comment if there are any other tweaks or settings they would suggest, and also if anyone can spot my max attainable speed (or point me in the right direction).

DriverVersion = 1.75
APIVersion = GS_API_648
DspFirmwareVersion = E.25.41.55 A
RemoteChipVender = GSPN
Linkuptime = 0 day 0 hr 13 min 16 sec
DspVersion = 0x000000e1
CommonHandshake = Enable
Connected = true
OperationalMode = G.Dmt
State = Showtime
Watchdog = 0x00000053
OperationProgress = 0x000000ad
LastFailed = 0x00000000
TxBitRate = 896000
RxBitRate = 4032000
DeltACTATPds = +0.0 dB
DeltACTATPus = +0.0 dB
DeltHLINscds = 0
ACTPSDDs = 0.00 dB
ACTPSDUs = 0.00 dB
BisTEQError = 0.00 dB
RxATTNDR = 4604000
TxATTNDR = 960173
AnnexType = AnnexA
CodeTypeStatus = AnnexA
TxCellRate = 2113
RxCellRate = 9509
PhyTXCellCount = 44109
PhyRXCellCount = 158873
PhyCellDropCount = 0
OverallFailure = 0
InterleaveDpDn = 64
InterleaveDpUp = 8
RSCorrectedErrorsDn = 45608
RSUnCorrectedErrorsDn = 63
RSCorrectedErrorsUp = 25
RSUnCorrectedErrorsUp = 4
SuperFramesDn = 46764
SuperFramesUp = 46764
InterleaveRDn = 16
InterleaveRUp = 16
InterleaveSDn = 1
InterleaveSUp = 8
FastRDn = 0
FastRUp = 0
BisMDn = 0
BisMUp = 126
BisBDn = 0
BisBUp = 32768
BisTDn = 0
BisTUp = 0
BisLDn = 28
BisLUp = 3
BisRDn = 0
BisRUp = 0
BisSDn = 0
BisSUp = 0
BisDelayDn = 0
BisDelayUp = 0
ShowtimeStart = 795
ATURVendor = CNXT
ATUCCountry = 46591
ATURANSIRev = 5632
ATURANSISTD = 0
ATUCANSIRev = 2048
ATUCANSIId = CNXT
ATUCANSISTD = 0
DataBoost = Disable
LocalITUCountryCode = 46591
LocalSEF = 0
LocalEndLOS = 0
LocalSNRMargin = 6.0 dB
LocalLineAttn = 63.5 dB
INPup = 0.00
INPdown = 0.00
PMstatus = Unknown (3178)
RawAttn = 64.0 dB
LocalTxPower = 12.3 dB
LocalFastChannelRxRate = 0
LocalFastChannelTxRate = 0
LocalFastChannelFEC = 0
LocalFastChannelCRC = 0
LocalFastChannelHEC = 0
LocalFastChannelNCD = 0
LocalFastChannelOCD = 0
LocalFastChannelLCD = 0
LocalInterleavedChannelRxRate = 4032000
LocalInterleavedChannelTxRate = 896000
LocalInterleavedChannelFEC = 45608
LocalInterleavedChannelCRC = 63
LocalInterleavedChannelHEC = 40
LocalInterleavedChannelNCD = 0
LocalInterleavedChannelOCD = 28
LocalInterleavedChannelLCD = 0
RemoteTxPower = 18.3 dB
RemoteSEF = 1
RemoteLOS = 0
RemoteLineAttn = 31.5 dB
RemoteSNRMargin = 9 dB
RemoteFastChannelFEC = 0
RemoteFastChannelCRC = 0
RemoteFastChannelHEC = 0
RemoteFastChannelNCD = 0
RemoteFastChannelLCD = 0
RemoteInterleavedChannelFEC = 25
RemoteInterleavedChannelCRC = 3
RemoteInterleavedChannelHEC = 0
RemoteInterleavedChannelNCD = 1
RemoteInterleavedChannelLCD = 0

[Khristian]

LocalMgmtFEC0 = 0
LocalMgmtCRC0 = 0
LocalMgmtFECErroredSec = 0
LocalMgmtErroredSec = 0
LocalMgmtSeverelyErroredSec = 0
LocalMgmtLOSErroredSec = 0
LocalMgmtUnavailErroredSec = 0
LocalMgmtHEC0 = 0
RemoteMgmtFEC0 = 0
RemoteMgmtCRC0 = 0
RemoteMgmtFECErroredSec = 0
RemoteMgmtErroredSec = 0
RemoteMgmtSeverelyErroredSec = 0
RemoteMgmtLOSErroredSec = 0
RemoteMgmtUnavailErroredSec = 0
RemoteMgmtHEC0 = 0
LocalTPSTCCell0 = 0
LocalTPSTCCell0UpperLayer = 0
LocalTPSTCBitError = 0
RemoteTPSTCCell0 = 0
RemoteTPSTCCell0UpperLayer = 0
RemoteTPSTCBitError = 0
PSDMaskStatus = CO-MSK2
StatusFailCount = 0
LineUpCount = 5
SRACnt = 0
SRACntUp = 0
DSBitSwapCnt = 12
USBitSwapCnt = 0
ProfileStatus = BT
Action = Startup
ActivateLine = None
LineStatus = true
HostControl = Enable
AutoStart = true
failsafe = false
ShowtimeLed = 0
Retrain = EnableOverallOnly
Defaults = None
ReadMemory =
WriteMemory =
DSPTrace = StopLogging
LoopbackTest = Unknown (0)
LineMode = None
Whip = Disable
WhipActive = Inactive
WhipMode = Standalone
DyingGasp = Enable
UtopiaInterface = Level1
PhysicalPort = 0
ClockType = Crystal
GenericTrace = DSP
DSPTraceType = DSP Message Trace
debug = disable
MaxRSMemory = 32
Profile = BT
DetectNoise = Disable
AnnexAStandard = Multimode
AnnexAEcFdmMode = FDM
AnnexAMaxBitsPerBin = 15
AnnexATxStartBin = 6
AnnexATxEndBin = 31
AnnexARxStartBin = 32
AnnexARxEndBin = 255
AnnexARxAutoBinAdjust = Disable
AnnexATxAttenuation = 0
AnnexABitSwap = Enable
AnnexABitSwapUp = Enable
AnnexANTRMode = Disable
AnnexAMaxDownRate = 255
AnnexACapability = AnnexA/T1413
AnnexACodingGain = Inc1_5
AnnexAFramerType = Type3
AnnexAFastRetrain = Enable
AnnexAQualificationMode = Mode1
AnnexAMaxMargin = PerCO
AnnexAForceSNRMarginDn = 0x0000ffff
BisAMaxInterleaveD = 511
BisASHalf = Disable
BisACabinetMode = Enable
BisAPSDMask = NonOvlp-M1
BisAStandard = G.Dmt.BisPlusAuto
BisAEcFdmMode = EC
BisAMaxBitsPerBin = 15
BisATxStartBin = 6
BisATxEndBin = 31
BisARxStartBin = 6
BisARxEndBin = 511
BisARxAutoBinAdjust = Disable
BisATxAttenuation = Bis_0DB
BisABitSwap = Enable
BisABitSwapUp = Enable
BisANTRMode = Disable
BisAMaxDownRate = 511
BisACapability = A2/A2+
BisACodingGain = Inc1_5
BisAFramerType = Type3ET
BisAFastRetrain = Disable
BisAMaxSInverse = 0x10
BisA_REIN = 60pps
BisA_SRA = Enable
BisA_PMmode = L2L3Allowed
BisAQualificationMode = Mode1
BisAPrecedence = DSInp
BisAMaxMargin = PerCO
BisADsInp = MinPossible
BisAForceSNRMarginDn = 0x0000ffff
BisA_SRAUp = Enable
BisMMaxInterleaveD = 511
BisMSHalf = Disable
BisMCabinetMode = Disable
BisMPSDMask = ALL
BisMStandard = G.Dmt.BisPlusAuto
BisMEcFdmMode = EC
BisMMaxBitsPerBin = 15
BisMTxStartBin = 6
BisMTxEndBin = 63
BisMRxStartBin = 6
BisMRxEndBin = 511
BisMRxAutoBinAdjust = Disable
BisMTxAttenuation = Bis_0DB
BisMBitSwap = Enable
BisMBitSwapUp = Enable
BisMNTRMode = Disable
BisMMaxDownRate = 511
BisMCapability = M2+/M2
BisMCodingGain = Inc1_5c

[Pengwern]

TxBitRate = 896000
RxBitRate = 4032000

RxATTNDR = 4604000
TxATTNDR = 960173

RSCorrectedErrorsDn = 45608
RSUnCorrectedErrorsDn = 63
RSCorrectedErrorsUp = 25
RSUnCorrectedErrorsUp = 4


LocalSNRMargin = 6.0 dB
LocalLineAttn = 63.5 dB
RawAttn = 64.0 dB

LocalInterleavedChannelRxRate = 4032000
LocalInterleavedChannelTxRate = 896000

RemoteLineAttn = 31.5 dB
RemoteSNRMargin = 9 dB



Checking the attenuation of 63.5db, it's estimating you for between 2-3Mb/s. So connecting at 4Mb/s, you're doing well.

However there seems to be some errors on the line. You using your test socket? If you're hoping to squeeze every last bit (pardon the pun) out of your line, I'd suggest using the test socket.

[Isitme]

I also noticed your very high attenuation, have you moved house since you posted in this thread - http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-d...tml#post287098

I think the speed increase may be due to your noise margin being below the Sky default. Have you set your router for this? If you have returning it to 7 db may reduce your errors and give you a better throughput.