Just a though...Why don't Sky Issue a list of approved FTTC routers

[marjohn56]

I can to a degree understand the username password combo being preset into the routers, it means you can post them to the client, plug 'em in and hey presto. The fact that those who are technically able to get around this by using wireshark is perhaps a good thing, in the fact it is only those with a degree of technical ability who will attempt it, thus saving Sky the hassle I suppose.

[chrcol]

If sky wanted they could have pretty easily blocked 3rd party routers by a MAC whitelist system, (which is what virgin media do).

So my guess is sky are willing to allow 3rd party devices, they just wont make it official so its easier to support the service.

I see both sides of the argument.

The merit for sky locking down is that.

1 - they can ensure is an approved openreach device (yes this is in the FTTC sin's, although other isp's have took liberties).
2 - As they control the CPE, they can disregard blaming the customer equipment on fault's.
3 - It makes support easier for their staff.


So where I stand is as long as sky turn a blind eye it doesnt bother me too much, obviously if I report a broadband fault I will have to temporarily use the sky hub again to keep them happy, but thats something I have accepted.

[nivek1612]

If sky wanted they could have pretty easily blocked 3rd party routers by a MAC whitelist system, (which is what virgin media do).

So my guess is sky are willing to allow 3rd party devices, they just wont make it official so its easier to support the service.

I see both sides of the argument.

The merit for sky locking down is that.

1 - they can ensure is an approved openreach device (yes this is in the FTTC sin's, although other isp's have took liberties).
2 - As they control the CPE, they can disregard blaming the customer equipment on fault's.
3 - It makes support easier for their staff.


So where I stand is as long as sky turn a blind eye it doesnt bother me too much, obviously if I report a broadband fault I will have to temporarily use the sky hub again to keep them happy, but thats something I have accepted.

Well put
I want control so I use a non sky router (HG612 and Airport Extreme) and they don't block it and seem to turn a bling eye . Win Win

[marjohn56]

What about MAC spoofing?

They could do it by using TR-069 to keep a track but TR-069 has many vulnerabilities to hackers so probably not the best idea.

[gorebrush]

I'm happy they don't enforce their T&C's too much. I have rung them in the past looking for support, and it is clearly obvious that they are working from a script because she knew what "router" I had.. (Ahem) and was following the relevant instructions for that.

Luckily it turned out to be a local cabling issue at my end - so it goes to show.

As I've tinkered more and more - it'd be actually really hard to re-adapt my network back to one of their routers... The day they enforce the Sky routers - the day I disconnect.

[simon194]

The day they enforce the Sky routers - the day I disconnect.

Same here. I don't have a working Sky router anyway because there's no way I'm paying £70 for an SR102 to replace the old Sagem that expired in a cloud of smoke.