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    Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

    This is a discussion on Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive? within the Sky Broadband (Fibre) Help forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; Originally Posted by Ozymandias Is that half of the standard price of 14.50 i.e. 7.25 for 6 months then full ...

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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias View Post
      Is that half of the standard price of 14.50 i.e. 7.25 for 6 months then full price vs. upfront 9.99 per month for a year so saving 10.62 over a year?

      The offer was half price line rental for 12 months ie. 7.25 per month instead of 14.50 per month so a saving of 87 over 12 months compared with the normal Sky price.
      The 12 month advance line rental would have save 54.60 over 12 months, but crucially this could have been combined with another offer to give a much bigger saving but if the OP had said they weren't prepared to pay 12 months up-front for line rental then this is the biggest saving they could have given.
      Given that BT will charge close to what Sky charge for a similar (although poorer) channel selection but charge more for telephone and broadband then this offer isn't too bad.


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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      What id like to see is this happening for fibre:
      20 pound packages come down to either 15 or 10 pounds
      And the 30 pound package come down to 20 quid even if they charge a little more on activation or setup a team that can do it without the need of bt.
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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      I am surprised that Sky have had no response whatsoever to either competitors packages/pricing which have been out a while, or the more recent BT announcement.

      That's either incompetent or incredibly arrogant.

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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Probably arrogance as all they seem to have done at the moment is tell us all how wonderful their services are.

      They probably will eventually have to do something. Perhaps they are waiting to see what the impact on their profits is before doing anything.

      I too am considering dumping all of sky TV as we hardly watch any of it really and things I do watch could be obtained elsewhere. (cough).


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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Quote Originally Posted by silus View Post
      I am surprised that Sky have had no response whatsoever to either competitors packages/pricing which have been out a while, or the more recent BT announcement.

      That's either incompetent or incredibly arrogant.
      Similar thinking here.

      I feel that Sky will announce something eventually, but I suspect that:
      1. the initial delay was due to being unprepared at the time of the BT Retail announcement and
      2. the current delay is now due to "the time it takes to turn a supertanker round" and come up with something, get it approved etc etc.

      I suppose this could all be construed as both incompetent (after all it wasn't like they didn't know that BT Retail had bought some sports rights and would probably come up with something) and arrogant (not being prepared for BT Retail and now either taking too long to come out with a response or possibly doing nothing and relying on customer inertia).

      Whilst the clock is still ticking down here, I'm surveying the phone & unlimited fibre broadband market and doing some sums! I'll be back later with some results...
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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Are Sky actively marketing fibre broadband? I know it's on their website but I haven't seen it anywhere else.

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      Have they ever actively marketed fibre broadband?!

      I seem to recall reading (just prior to launch) that the "suits" at Sky weren't convinced that there was a market for it, so maybe they still think that way and that's why it's not very strongly marketed.
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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      We have been looking at the options and are now 95% certain we will leave sky and join bt, just have to double check a few things. tv broadband the lot will go.
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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Quote Originally Posted by bubblegun View Post
      The offer was half price line rental for 12 months ie. 7.25 per month instead of 14.50 per month so a saving of 87 over 12 months compared with the normal Sky price.
      The 12 month advance line rental would have save 54.60 over 12 months, but crucially this could have been combined with another offer to give a much bigger saving but if the OP had said they weren't prepared to pay 12 months up-front for line rental then this is the biggest saving they could have given.
      Given that BT will charge close to what Sky charge for a similar (although poorer) channel selection but charge more for telephone and broadband then this offer isn't too bad.

      When a customer has paid 12 months line rental upfront, it shows on the monthly bill as "Sky Talk Line Rental Discounted" rather than something like "Sky Talk Upfront Line Rental".

      So, when a Sky customer services representative looks at the customer's account, does she/he know that the customer is actually getting this discount because of the advance payment for 12 months line rental upfront - rather than simply receiving a discount as part of a negotiated deal to retain the customer?
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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      First off, I compared the base cost as at today for "40/10" unlimited fibre broadband (ignoring any cashbacks or special offer prices applicable for the first three months or whatever):



      Sky Fibre Unlimited (40/10)
      Fibre Broadband 20.00
      Sky Talk Line Rental 14.50
      34.50
      Fibre Broadband 20.00
      Sky Talk Upfront Line Rental 9.95 (requires payment in advance of 119.40)
      29.95
      BT Unlimited Infinity 1 (40/10)
      Fibre Broadband 23.00
      Line Rental 15.45
      38.45
      Fibre Broadband 23.00
      Line Rental Saver 10.75 (requires payment in advance of 129.00)
      33.75
      TalkTalk Fibre Medium (40/10)
      Essentials Broadband 6.50
      HomeSafe Security 2.00
      Fibre Medium 10.00
      18.50
      Line Rental 14.95
      33.45
      Essentials Broadband 6.50
      HomeSafe Security 2.00
      Fibre Medium 10.00
      18.50
      Value Line Rental 9.50 (requires payment in advance of 114.00)
      28.00


      Next, I compared the base cost as at today for "80/20" unlimited fibre broadband (again ignoring any cashbacks or special offer prices applicable for the first three months or whatever):



      Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro (80/20)
      Fibre Broadband 30.00
      Sky Talk Line Rental 14.50
      44.50
      Fibre Broadband 30.00
      Sky Talk Upfront Line Rental 9.95 (requires payment in advance of 119.40)
      39.95
      PlusNet Unlimited Fibre (80/20)
      Fibre Broadband 19.99
      Line Rental 14.50
      34.49
      Fibre Broadband 19.99
      Line Rental Saver 10.99 (requires payment in advance of 131.88)
      30.98
      BT Unlimited Infinity 2 (80/20)
      Fibre Broadband 26.00
      Line Rental 15.45
      41.45
      Fibre Broadband 26.00
      Line Rental Saver 10.75 (requires payment in advance of 129.00)
      36.75
      TalkTalk Fibre Large (80/20)
      Essentials Broadband 6.50
      HomeSafe Security 2.00
      Fibre Large 15.00
      23.50
      Line Rental 14.95
      38.45
      Essentials Broadband 6.50
      HomeSafe Security 2.00
      Fibre Large 15.00
      23.50
      Value Line Rental 9.50 (requires payment in advance of 114.00)
      33.00


      Points that I noticed:

      1. Caller Display
      - free of charge on Sky
      - can be free of charge on BT (subject to registering for BT Privacy at Home)
      - costs 0.99 per month on PlusNet
      - seems to be part of a boost package of 6 features costing 4.10 per month on TalkTalk

      2. HomeSafe Security (TalkTalk)
      - this may be an optional boost that can be excluded if not required but unsure about that fact!

      3. Inclusive Calls:
      - seem to be restricted to weekends only now for new joiners
      - calls to 0845 & 0870 seem to be inclusive on BT & PlusNet



      Please feel free to correct me on any prices and other points where I've got it wrong!

      Now off to digest and think about my findings...
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