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    Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

    This is a discussion on Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive? within the Sky Broadband (Fibre) Help forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; Originally Posted by Ozymandias Maybe that's what Sky are waiting for so they can really compete Yeah Right Better odds ...

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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias View Post
      Maybe that's what Sky are waiting for so they can really compete
      Yeah Right
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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Quote Originally Posted by Johnelf View Post
      Yeah Right
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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      I had hoped that Sky might announce something this week in response to BT Retail's announcement on 9 May. Alas nothing. I'm beginning to think there will not be a response! Will give it another 2 weeks for them to come up with something. If nothing, I'll try and get a renewal deal on Sky Fibre. If nothing, I'll have to move on (probably to PlusNet).

      Surely they were not completely unprepared for something from BT Retail? After all they knew that BT Retail had won some sports rights and had acquired ESPN's UK operation. I would have thought they might have already had something planned to mitigate whatever BT Retail came out with?

      Maybe it's because the real aim of BT Retail's announcement is not really to win Sports customers from Sky et al but to win Broadband customers (from Sky et al) in order to stay ahead of Sky as the largest BB provider?
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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Unless someone can point out something I am missing - I can't see any reason for me to not switch to BT Infinity.

      The down speed will be (at least) the same, the up speed will be faster, their router is better and to top it all BT Sport is free whilst I am with BT (with HD free for the first 12 months).

      Sure, over 18 months, Sky's Fibre product is 30ish cheaper but their line rental is 20ish more and that's before you take the 290 BT Sport (HD) would cost over 18 months, the 80 cashback and the 50 Sainsburys voucher into account.

      So - am I missing something here ?

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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      I don't think so, I am using up my free 9 months by which time fibre will be at my exchange.

      I don't have any allegiance to Sky so if their package doesn't improve it will be offski for me.


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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Quote Originally Posted by AdamBrunt View Post
      Unless someone can point out something I am missing - I can't see any reason for me to not switch to BT Infinity.

      The down speed will be (at least) the same, the up speed will be faster, their router is better and to top it all BT Sport is free whilst I am with BT (with HD free for the first 12 months).

      Sure, over 18 months, Sky's Fibre product is 30ish cheaper but their line rental is 20ish more and that's before you take the 290 BT Sport (HD) would cost over 18 months, the 80 cashback and the 50 Sainsburys voucher into account.

      So - am I missing something here ?
      This post is confusing me.
      The Up and Down speeds should be the same on both BT and Sky.

      Sky 40/10 fibre is 3 per month cheaper and the line rental is 1 a month cheaper on a monthly basis 14.50 vs 15.45 or 9.50 per year if you pay the year upfront on Sky vs BT.

      BT isn't cheaper on the 40/10 service in any way.

      This thread is about the 80/20 service which the price is uncompetitive on.

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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Some people are suggesting that the Sky Hub's WiFi is slower than the BT HomeHub v3 or v4. Since the v4 has only just been released, it might be interesting to know what it is like to use. However the WiFi speed is 300mbps compared to Sky's 144mbps.

      A lot of laptops out there will be connecting at 72mbps with the Sky Hub, whilst they will finally be able to connect at up to 150mbps with the HomeHub v4. This will improve things.

      Otherwise, any connections via Ethernet should be the same whether via BT or Sky on the same fast FTTC connection (i.e. 80/20).

      As I showed with my own tests though, the computer you use can affect the actual results, just as much as picking the best speed test site can.

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      Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Otherwise, any connections via Ethernet should be the same whether via BT or Sky on the same fast FTTC connection (i.e. 80/20).
      Don't forget the HH4 does have Gigabit Ethernet (albeit just 1 port), whereas the Sky Hub does not.

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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      One thing we are not sure yet is the sky hub 2.0 is just about to start beta testing, who knows this one might have both 2.4 an 5ghz or even have the gigabit ethernet ports.. I hope to find out shortly

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      Re: Will Sky be doing anything to become competitive?

      Quote Originally Posted by stereohaven View Post
      Don't forget the HH4 does have Gigabit Ethernet (albeit just 1 port), whereas the Sky Hub does not.
      True, but on an 80/20 connection, this isn't going to make any difference. It will make a difference if the connection speed was greater the 100mb or to the internal connection speeds.

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