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    Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

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      Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

      Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

      Down speed looks good but 2 meg UP Speed is quite stingy

      compared to BT's 10 meg.

      Does anyone agree that 2 meg represents a very small increase in UP Speed.

      Simon

      PS: I am currently on Sky Unlimited Broadband ADSL2+
      and get 11 meg DOWN - 1 meg UP ( Router sync speed a bit higher )


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      Re: Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

      Don't care about upload, its not a business line.

      Do want my 40mb unfiltered, unmetered, unBTed line though

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      Re: Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

      well upload would be a nice improvement but really its how stable your line is thats more important especially for games or streaming videos etc

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      Re: Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

      As FTTC was originally an 'up to' 40 down and 2 up service, and very few connected with anything near 40mb, then I guess that you could say that since things have improved it is somewhat limited.

      The 40/2 connection that Sky is offering for the trialists is still an 'up to' connection speed, but most people are getting the full speed because BTO have increased the potential connection speed to 80/20.

      Remember though that Sky did resolve the backhaul issue experienced last year. They have also been working hard to resolve a similar issue this year. VM do not appear to have tackled their backhaul problem across the country and BTW's response is to cap everyone during they peak hours.

      BTW have stated that they will guarantee a minimum throughput speed on the 80/20 connection of 30mb/s downstream. No mention of the upstream speed being guaranteed though.

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      Re: Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

      Quote Originally Posted by gorebrush View Post
      Don't care about upload, its not a business line.

      Do want my 40mb unfiltered, unmetered, unBTed line though

      Just been posting with Tom about this. Whislt "Upto 40 Meg" is nice for those of us with several people connecting to the internet I am starting think that the upload speed is just as important. Of course it all depends what you want to do with your connection but asking for a 40/10 does not make it a business line. A family of four all using the internet at the same time could cause congestion especially if they are uploading photos or if using cloud services such as itunes match which from what Tom said could in some cases have an impact on the dowload speeds.
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      Re: Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      As FTTC was originally an 'up to' 40 down and 2 up service, and very few connected with anything near 40mb, then I guess that you could say that since things have improved it is somewhat limited.

      The 40/2 connection that Sky is offering for the trialists is still an 'up to' connection speed, but most people are getting the full speed because BTO have increased the potential connection speed to 80/20.

      Remember though that Sky did resolve the backhaul issue experienced last year. They have also been working hard to resolve a similar issue this year. VM do not appear to have tackled their backhaul problem across the country and BTW's response is to cap everyone during they peak hours.

      BTW have stated that they will guarantee a minimum throughput speed on the 80/20 connection of 30mb/s downstream. No mention of the upstream speed being guaranteed though.
      I notice that BT seem to have stopped using the 4x faster than sky on their adverts too!
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      Re: Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      The 40/2 connection that Sky is offering for the trialists is still an 'up to' connection speed, but most people are getting the full speed because BTO have increased the potential connection speed to 80/20
      bongexciter must be a good distance from his cabinet then, since he 'only' gets just under 30meg down. Wish he'd come back on to tell us just how far (if he knows).

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      Re: Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

      Quote Originally Posted by Ipster View Post
      Just been posting with Tom about this. Whislt "Upto 40 Meg" is nice for those of us with several people connecting to the internet I am starting think that the upload speed is just as important. Of course it all depends what you want to do with your connection but asking for a 40/10 does not make it a business line. A family of four all using the internet at the same time could cause congestion especially if they are uploading photos or if using cloud services such as itunes match which from what Tom said could in some cases have an impact on the dowload speeds.

      Remember BT infinity is 40/10 as standard.
      Fibre optic should give a lot more than SKY will ( UPLOADS )
      2 meg is a small increase ( about 50k transfer rate )
      Gamers will notice a difference in a 10 meg upload speed.
      For most of us Sharing videos/photos ( ie Via Yahoo messenger)
      2 meg would be a bit quicker, 10 meg much quicker.

      Question is though, how are BT able to offer 10 meg upload and sky just 2 meg?

      BT are looking to double the speed soon, 80 meg Down 20 meg Up.

      Massive difference.

      The one thing that will be good will be the WIRELESS N standard / protocol
      routers that we will all get.

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      Re: Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      The 40/2 connection that Sky is offering for the trialists is still an 'up to' connection speed, but most people are getting the full speed because BTO have increased the potential connection speed to 80/20..
      Actually, BTO commencing to offer the 80/20 package has no bearing on customers being able to reach better speeds.

      With the current VDSL2 17a profile that BTO utilise, each line has a Maxiumum Attainable Rate (M.A.R.), based on line condition and distance over than the 'Last Mile' of copper, from the Street Cab to the premises.

      With the current offerings of VDSL from different ISP's (40 down/10 up for instance), a customer who has M.A.R. of say, 30 down / 7meg up will receive exactly that, whilst a customer with a M.A.R. of 100 down / 35 up, would get the full 40 / 10.

      When BTO Flick the switch for 80/20 packages, The customer with the M.A.R. of 30/7, will still only receive this ammount, as it's the line which is limiting them. The customer with a M.A.R. of 100/35, will be able to benefit from the full 80/20 package.

      The only time this will change, is if BT implement the 30a profile, which would give a different set of line parameters.

      Quote Originally Posted by joe pineapples View Post
      bongexciter must be a good distance from his cabinet then, since he 'only' gets just under 30meg down. Wish he'd come back on to tell us just how far (if he knows).
      A good distance, could be a 'mere' 400-500 metres from the cabinet to drop the Max rates to these speeds. Scubbie did publish some graphs with distance / sync speed info somewhere.
      Line quality could also have an effect, you could be 100 meters from the cab, with a crappy bit of copper running into your property. Good enough to pass BTO's tests, but not good enough to support full speeds.


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      Re: Fibre Optic Broadband - 40 meg Down - 2 meg UP

      Quote Originally Posted by simon007 View Post
      Question is though, how are BT able to offer 10 meg upload and sky just 2 meg?
      Sky are Trailing the VDSL product, therefore starting small. They're not officialy offering anything to the public yet.

      Still no cast iron information, but it's the same standard all the other ISP's are reselling. So, logic would say, when the Trail is over and Sky officially launch, they would be silly not to take advantage of the faster speeds and slip behind their competitors.


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