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    New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch?

    This is a discussion on New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch? within the Sky Broadband (Fibre) Help forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; Originally Posted by Ipster I am sure I read somewhere that sky were working on letting people have contact with ...

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      Re: New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch?

      Quote Originally Posted by Ipster View Post
      I am sure I read somewhere that sky were working on letting people have contact with their sky box and recordings.. Or was it a dream.... hmmmmmm
      There is a story which was posted last December regarding the ability to stream the content off a Sky+ HD STB to a SkyHD STB. I was talking about the unpublished ability to take it a little further.

      Quote Originally Posted by morgee View Post
      Personally I use the sky supplied router and have no issues with it. Yet!
      But that is probably because I don't understand what using a different router will improve.
      For now I am happy but if someone can explain what improvements can be gained from changing to a different make of router or what sky can improve on their own one then I can jump off the fence lol.
      It is also very possible this has been explained before and I either simply missed it or just failed to understand!
      As I said is my lengthy post, there are lots of reasons why some people may wish to use a different router. However I do appreciate that the Sagem 2504N is functional and will be more than enough for many people.

      Next time you are copying a large file of your LAN and you are twiddling your fingers because it is taking 15 minutes, consider what you would do differently had it taken under a minute. This is what I have most certainly noticed. If you are not in to copying large files, then this is not something that you would need to worry about.
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      Re: New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch?

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      Seriously? Really??

      I'm more than happy to give assistance to anybody..... that knows how use the search function.
      aww, now you think I dont know how to use search, that is adorable. being I posted simultaneously pretty much. no-one has a problem with this. I am sure you dont take yourself that seriously and are just joking around

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      Re: New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch?

      the reason people want to use their own router, im sure scubbie will agree, is to get better coverage and/r to use the router for more than just surfing. I myself stream content around the home, HD content from a NAS drive. copying files too. people like me need gigabit and good/fast wireless. scubbie's guides are there for those who want to use them, if you are happy with the suppliwed router then great but for those of us who want to use a different router should be free from persecution (and I mean that lightheartedly lol )
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      Re: New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch?

      hey scubbie , if the router can do 300 and laptop or other n class receiver can do max 150, what actual speed would you get ? you say 300 on both achieves around 144 so how would that be reduced if receiver is not 300 but 150 max?

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      Re: New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch?

      Quote Originally Posted by Zino_Jones View Post
      the reason people want to use their own router, im sure scubbie will agree, is to get better coverage and/r to use the router for more than just surfing. I myself stream content around the home, HD content from a NAS drive. copying files too. people like me need gigabit and good/fast wireless. scubbie's guides are there for those who want to use them, if you are happy with the suppliwed router then great but for those of us who want to use a different router should be free from persecution (and I mean that lightheartedly lol )
      Aha now I am beginning to understand. I am at the moment researching installing a NAS drive and so once I do that I may revisit the idea of a different router if necessary. However I have just bought a new ipad so the NAS is on hold for now. (narrowed down to probably QNAP TS412. Then connect sky hd box, PS3 etc through a switch) I was unaware that the present Sky router would present a problem to using a NAS drive. So once I have all the equipment I will have to do a search here and find all the relevant advice.
      Thank you. Things are slightly clearer now.
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      Re: New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch?

      There is no real problem using a NAS drive with the Sky router. 100Mbs is more than enough to stream HD.
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      Re: New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch?

      Quote Originally Posted by Zino_Jones View Post
      hey scubbie , if the router can do 300 and laptop or other n class receiver can do max 150, what actual speed would you get ? you say 300 on both achieves around 144 so how would that be reduced if receiver is not 300 but 150 max?
      Sorry for the delay, I've tried to compose the chart below. If there are mistakes, could people let me know and I will endeavour to amend it:

      WiFi Specification Frequency Max Single Channel Connection Speed (20MHz bandwidth) Max Paired Channel Connection Speed (40MHz bandwidth)
      WiFi a 5.2GHz 54Mb/s
      WiFi b 2.4GHz 11Mb/s
      WiFi g 2.4GHz 54Mb/s
      WiFi n 2.4GHz and 5.2GHz 65Mb/s 130Mb/s
      WiFi n 2.4GHz and 5.2GHz 72Mb/s 150Mb/s
      WiFi n 2.4GHz and 5.2GHz 270Mb/s
      WiFi n 2.4GHz and 5.2GHz 144Mb/s 300Mb/s
      WiFi n 2.4GHz and 5.2GHz 144Mb/s 450Mb/s (triple channel, 60MHz bandwidth)
      WiFi n 2.4GHz and 5.2GHz 144Mb/s 600Mb/s (quad channel, 80MHz bandwidth)
      WiFi ac (due 2012 or 2013) 5.2GHz 1300Mb/s (Quad & Octo channels)


      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      There is no real problem using a NAS drive with the Sky router. 100Mbs is more than enough to stream HD.
      Agreed - Over a wired LAN, 100Mb/s is more than sufficient to stream to multiple computers HD content from a NAS drive, for example.

      Streaming actually require a high speed connection, hence you can stream BBC iPlayer content happily on a 5mb Internet connection. With Wireless though I trust that you would agree that things are different. I guess the reason for this would be down to interference and buffering.

      Edit: I have opened a new thread to discuss the above table and for it to perhaps become a reference for the forum: http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/techn...on-speeds.html
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      Re: New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch?

      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      There is no real problem using a NAS drive with the Sky router. 100Mbs is more than enough to stream HD.
      How many users could the current router manage downloading or streaming at the same time before if would effect it? Say for example someone watching a 1080 movie on Apple TV, Sky Go on an iPad and then kids uploading their music to itunes match? I have never tried but wondered would a 100Mbs be enough for that? My connection is not strong enough to try at the moment.

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      Re: New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch?

      At the moment my PC is hard wired to my router via ethernet on the outside of the house.
      My intention when I set up a NAS drive and connect all the other bits (PS3, Sky HD box etc) via a switch which I have purchased already in preperation is to hard wire it all via ethernet cable through the wall and outside the house so eventually everything will be hard wired. Should then all be good.
      The only wifi connections will be wifes lap top and my ipad.

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      Re: New Router at Sky Broadband Fibre Unlimited launch?

      For reference, the way the LAN works is that it takes the shortest path.

      A request for information from the Internet will travel through the router, since this is where the traffic needs to travel.

      However, if you have two computers connected to a particular switch, then the initial contact may travel through the router, as it will record the IP addresses of all connected devices. Once this has been established, the two computers will communicate only through the Switch.

      Taking this into account, if you NAS drive were connected to the Switch, along with your PC, then you would benefit from a 1Gbit switch, if both have 1Gbit LAN Adaptors.

      However any transfer to your Wife's laptop and iPad would travel at the slower 100mb/s to the router, then at whatever WiFi speed she has connected at.

      As for the cable that runs outside your home, don't forget to set up something to protect the cable. I also trust that you have used Cat 5e cable rated for use outside.

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