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    This is a discussion on Sky Fibre hopeful within the Sky Broadband (Fibre) Help forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; Originally Posted by Isitme I thought this was only required in Conservation Areas? Gawd no, it's all subject to planning. ...

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      Re: Sky Fibre hopeful

      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      I thought this was only required in Conservation Areas?
      Gawd no, it's all subject to planning. The local councils own most of the pavements / roads where these cabs are sited, to boot. This is part of the reason why old and new cabs are not always right next to each other, which would be the most practical for passing connections between them.


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      Re: Sky Fibre hopeful

      I was under the impression that BTO had to apply for planning permission for all their Green Street Boxes as technically they are permanent structures.

      I recall too that some people in St. Albans complained about the cabinets and planning permission was denied. So some areas won't get FTTC or FTTP for a while as a result.

      thinkbroadband :: Uproar over fibre cabinets in St Albans

      Whilst searching for the above story, I also found a similar one for Brighton:

      thinkbroadband :: Conservationists battle BT over fibre broadband cabinets in Brighton

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      Re: Sky Fibre hopeful

      Exert from your first link Scubbie-
      The issue of conservation areas will also impact on FTTC coverage, as it did in Muswell Hill, St Albans and other places. BT has code powers that means outside conservation areas they do not need planning permission. The problem is that the ideal location may be in the conservation area but many of the properties are outside it. More expensive solutions of course are possible, such as waterproofing hardware so that it can be located underground, but this makes general maintenance more expensive.

      ,,and from the second one, which concerns a conservation area.
      "We do fully appreciate the concerns of the conservation and amenities committees regarding the siting of our super-fast broadband cabinets in certain parts of the city.
      We are committed to working with local authorities to minimise the visual impact of the new street cabinets, and have done this successfully in other conservation areas."

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      No problem.

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      Re: Sky Fibre hopeful

      Indeed, good spot Isitme.

      Exert from BTO's website.

      "Under Part 24 of the Town & Country Planning Act BT as a Code Operator has deemed planning permission to install Cabinets so no notification at the planning stage is required in most cases under this piece of legislation. However if the Cabinet is to be installed in Article 1 (5) land i.e. National Parks , Conservation Areas etc then a Prior Notification application must be sent to the Local Planning Authority (LPA). They then decide if the application has to go through the process and if it does they have 56 calendar days in which to consult interested parties and consider the application. The LPA can refuse the application on the grounds of siting and appearance only. However if no written rejection has been received within the 56 days installation can commence. Under Para 5 of the Electronic Communications Code (Conditions and Restrictions) Regulations 2003 BT must notice the LPA of our intention to install any Cabinet. The LPA do not have the power to veto any site but they can request conditions to be attached to the installation and they have up to one calendar month to do this. However BT can reject these conditions if they feel they are not reasonably practicable. In order to install the Cabinets BT must notice the Highway Authority via the New Roads & Street Works Noticing system when they intend to work in the street. This allows the Highway Authority to ensure there is no clash with other Utilities who may be working in the same area and so avoid any unnecessary congestion."


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      Re: Sky Fibre hopeful

      Quote Originally Posted by fazedup View Post
      Exert from BTO's website.

      ".....In order to install the Cabinets BT must notice the Highway Authority via the New Roads & Street Works Noticing system when they intend to work in the street. ......"
      Nice 1 fazedup, theres been many mentions on here about using elgin to see when roadworks are planned for NGA Cab instalations but frustratingly elgin does not cover my local authority so was of no use to me but after googling that new roads & street works noticing system reference i came across another site that does cover my area so thank you

      Roadworks Online

      Today i drove past a cab from the other exchange still to be done near me which had road works around it so was looking like things are starting to happen for that exchange now, after finding this site i can confirm that all the box locations for that 2nd exchange have planned works listed over the next 2 weeks for NGA cab installations and all the related poly/power duct works, sadly theres nothing on their yet for my exchanges cab locations (just knew mine would be last of the 3 here to get done) but at least its getting closer and that 2nd exchange is only small with not many cabs so hopefully shouldnt take that long and it was only a few weeks from first seeing the NGA cabs for the 1st exchange to it going 'accepting orders'

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      Quote Originally Posted by Moxey View Post
      Nice 1 fazedup, theres been many mentions on here about using elgin to see when roadworks are planned for NGA Cab instalations but frustratingly elgin does not cover my local authority so was of no use to me but after googling that new roads & street works noticing system reference i came across another site that does cover my area so thank you

      Roadworks Online

      Today i drove past a cab from the other exchange still to be done near me which had road works around it so was looking like things are starting to happen for that exchange now, after finding this site i can confirm that all the box locations for that 2nd exchange have planned works listed over the next 2 weeks for NGA cab installations and all the related poly/power duct works, sadly theres nothing on their yet for my exchanges cab locations (just knew mine would be last of the 3 here to get done) but at least its getting closer and that 2nd exchange is only small with not many cabs so hopefully shouldnt take that long and it was only a few weeks from first seeing the NGA cabs for the 1st exchange to it going 'accepting orders'
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      Re: Sky Fibre hopeful

      Today's the day, awaiting the Openreach person as I type !

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      Re: Sky Fibre hopeful

      Quote Originally Posted by staffsfc View Post
      Today's the day, awaiting the Openreach person as I type !
      Are you having a standard install or do you need extra cable laying / router moving etc?

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      Re: Sky Fibre hopeful

      Hi jayhab,

      Just a standard install, phone socket under window, little table next to it for routers with mains extention for the 2 mains adaptors. Using wireless as we have 2x PCs, laptop and android phones in house.

      Will post new speed when up and running, before luchtime if all goes to plan.

     

     
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