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    Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers

    This is a discussion on Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers within the Sky Anytime + forums, part of the Sky On Demand category; hello why do you have to have sky broadband to get anytime plus at the end of the day the ...

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      Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers

      hello why do you have to have sky broadband to get anytime plus at the end of the day the broadband all comes from the same source bt so why specfic supplier as i live in an area where i cant get sky broadband and i have a full sky hd service


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      Re: Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers

      Quote Originally Posted by Azkeel View Post
      hello why do you have to have sky broadband to get anytime plus at the end of the day the broadband all comes from the same source bt so why specfic supplier as i live in an area where i cant get sky broadband and i have a full sky hd service
      Sky has its own Voice and Broadband network, nothing to with with BT unless your on Connect.

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      Re: Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers

      Sky are only allowed to stream it's content on it's own BB network as per Ofcom's rules.

      The backbone from their servers to local telephone exchanges is it's own backbone network.

      In the same respect, BT is only allowed to offer BT Vision to BT Internet customers.

      Sky BB Connect is essentially a re-badged BT Wholesale product, which uses BT Wholesale's backbone.

      Anytime+ is therefore only available on Sky BB Lite & Sky BB Unlimited as these are only available on Sky's equipment.

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      Re: Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers

      Quote Originally Posted by Azkeel View Post
      hello why do you have to have sky broadband to get anytime plus at the end of the day the broadband all comes from the same source bt so why specfic supplier as i live in an area where i cant get sky broadband and i have a full sky hd service
      I have seen this on another forum somewhere, but it is wrong. The Sky Network does not use BT equipment, only the wires to the exchange. In the exchange it is plugged into Sky equipment, not BT's, it is completely separate.

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      Re: Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers

      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      I have seen this on another forum somewhere, but it is wrong. The Sky Network does not use BT equipment, only the wires to the exchange. In the exchange it is plugged into Sky equipment, not BT's, it is completely separate.
      This is true... That is what LLU usually means.

      The broadband provider uses BT's cables but has their own equipment at the exchange allowing them to better troubleshoot and control their network.

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      Re: Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers

      Has Ofcom actually stated the Sky cannot offer VOD to non Sky customers, or did somebody at Sky make that up as an excuse?

      It would be very odd for Ofcom to say that as they have ruled that the VOD market is in it's infancy and wasn't going to do anything to interfere with it at the moment until it stabalises especially as it has more and more players entering the market.

      Anyways Sky has signed up to e a content provider with YouView which launches next year.

      Nothing has been announced so it could be like the offerings that are already avaliable via the Xbox, it could be offering Anytime+ or something else completely different.
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      Re: Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers

      I think Sky are basing there service on what other ISPs do who offer a similar service. You can't get BT Vision if you are not on BT. Likewise you can't get Virgin's Demand service if you don't have cable.

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      Re: Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers

      The trouble is that BT Vision and Virgin have their own boxes which you need to be a customer with them to get.

      Sky on the other hand do not have the same excuse they have 3.5 million customers with HD boxes. If they produced a VOD box which attached to the HD box and it was only avaliable to Sky customers then perhaps they could have got away with it.

      As it is there is a vast majority of customers who will not be able to get a service that they are pushing hard to promote.

      They announced the Sky BB only condition the week of launch, not a particulary smart move when they had tried to generate a ton of Buzz for months before.

      Given that BT is now moving BT Vision to YouView by next year it will be just Sky and Virgin who will be operating by these conditions.
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      Re: Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Sky are only allowed to stream it's content on it's own BB network as per Ofcom's rules.

      The backbone from their servers to local telephone exchanges is it's own backbone network.

      In the same respect, BT is only allowed to offer BT Vision to BT Internet customers.

      Sky BB Connect is essentially a re-badged BT Wholesale product, which uses BT Wholesale's backbone.

      Anytime+ is therefore only available on Sky BB Lite & Sky BB Unlimited as these are only available on Sky's equipment.
      If this is the case, surely Sky Player should only work on Sky Broadband and
      would it not imply that a company like LoveFilm should have it's own broadband service to stream films?

      I think as someone else points out Sky are just trying to get new Sky Broadband customers by using this restriction.

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      Re: Sky Anytime plus for non sky broadband customers

      I have just spent about an hour trying to find the necessary document to support the statement that I made, but have not found it.

      What I have found is that BT Vision is available to people who subscribe to the PO for their BB. This is a BT Wholesale product though.

      I've also found various posts advising how to use non-BT routers on BT's BB to receive BT Vision.

      If someone else could find a supporting document I'd be grateful.

      I do recall that there was significant press coverage stating that Sky and Virgin objected to BT Vision being supplied over their BB networks as they feared it was anti-competitive.

      The result was that they were also barred from streaming some of their content over BT's network.

      IMHO I must admit that it is all getting rather silly. Virgin can offer VoD content, BBC iPlayer is responsible for a huge volume worldwide, every significant Terrestrial channel now appears to offer VoD content too, not just in the UK.

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