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    "BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored"

    This is a discussion on "BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored" within the P2P / File sharing forums, part of the General chat category; Apparently blacklists such as PeerBlock or PeerGuardian are near worthless (as if that wasn't obvious before) and the extent of ...

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      "BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored"

      Apparently blacklists such as PeerBlock or PeerGuardian are near worthless (as if that wasn't obvious before) and the extent of monitoring P2P swarms is much greater than most people previously thought.

      The BBC version: BBC News - BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored
      The Ars version: Trading popular files on BitTorrent? You’ll be spotted within 3 hours | Ars Technica

      Would be interesting to know if these studies were only carried out on public trackers and/or any details regarding private trackers.


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      Re: "BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored"

      Then why are not more people prosecuted?

      Is it perhaps just propaganda designed to frighten people against downloading torrents?

      I have no idea!

      I would have expected many more people to be prosecuted though if it is true. Why just monitor and not take action?
      That doesn't make any sense.


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      Re: "BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored"

      It said somewhere in there that some of the monitoring servers belonged to tracking companies employed by copyright holders for that purpose (or rather as a starting point for that purpose). It also said that quite a few the owners could not be identified, some of them were other research groups, some were companies collecting data for marketing statistics etc... I'm not sure of the value in so many different people tracking torrent use, I can understand some of them, the level of tracking is still a scary prospect.

      It might also be worth taking into consideration that they could be working for people elsewhere. People in the US get warnings pretty fast for using such systems unless they have hidden their tracks.
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      Re: "BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored"

      It is nice to know that they are keeping this information. I wonder if they are keeping it in line with all the appropriate laws? After all, personal information must be kept in a very specific manner and they would lose the case should they fail to do this. Should any attempts to comply with the law are made now, then they would again be in a position which would cost them the case.

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      Re: "BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored"

      I would expect some of them are handling the information quite carefully to as best as possible avoid that problem and the researchers will likely be careful to maintain overall integrity. I'm pretty sure there are a whole bunch of market analysis and statistics people out there who do not care in the slightest. Given that people doing such things are doing so internationally they could easily be in locations with much weaker laws and unless they intend to bring anything collected to a court here (or somewhere else with strong laws in this regard) it doesn't really provide a big problem to them.

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      Re: "BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored"

      The Data Protection Act (1988) was originally introduced as a requirement in order to satisfy European and International data sharing/storing requirements. I know that it has subsequently been changed and I haven't studied the latest version as much as I did the first version.

      Whilst I accept that other countries have different or non-existent laws, if the storage and handling of the information doesn't comply with UK laws, I would hope that it would be inadmissible and thrown out of any court case.

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      "BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored"

      This kinda scares me because I download the odd film every week to watch on weekend day off and if there going to be watching you waiting to pounce what's the point off having fibre optic speeds

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      Re: "BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored"

      Quote Originally Posted by killa_uk View Post
      This kinda scares me because I download the odd film every week to watch on weekend day off and if there going to be watching you waiting to pounce what's the point off having fibre optic speeds
      Without sounding rude, you shouldn't really be doing that anyway. Fibre was never intended to allow people to download copyrighted material for free, in the first place.

      Thats like saying what's the point in me having an F1 car if I am likely to get caught by the Police whilst driving away at full speed, after robbing a bank.
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      Re: "BitTorrent study finds most file-sharers are monitored"

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