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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Scrub the decks???


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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Quote Originally Posted by BurnIT View Post
      Scrub the decks???
      That's automated too...

      Testing the Pre-wet system...


      ...and some foam too (Flightdeck firefighting foam that is)...
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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      There's always those difficult to remove blood stains!!

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      I think that they've stopped whipping the ratings now.

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      I was thinking more of the failed landings with the NEW planes.

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Recent footage of the F35Bs being launched and landing on a US carrier...

      https://www.facebook.com/MilitaryMac...1463015090480/
      Not convinced by the F35B's at all - https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...yed-least-2018

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Quote Originally Posted by BurnIT View Post
      I was thinking more of the failed landings with the NEW planes.
      I'm not aware of any footage available to show any crash landings of the F35B yet, but no doubt they'll be keeping that footage tightly locked away.

      If you are able to find them, there are images somewhere showing what happens when someone gets too close to a helicopter. Not particularly nice when you realise the loss of life too.

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Very nice though the QE is, it really isn't all that useful. In any major war it will be one of the first targets, and no matter how good its defences are, throw enough missiles at it and a few will get through -so only useful really against countries without a navy or air force.

      Also, where is her escort fleet, without those its even more vulnerable. RN only has six destroyers and thirteen frigates at present.

      As for the PoW, money would have been better spent on those escorts.
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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Sure she is a large target, hence the carrier battle group strategy. All side lost carriers during WW2 but they proved to be better than battleships for taking the fight to the enemy. So I guess they're here to stay.

      As for the escorts fleet, or CBG, yes we do need more of our own ships if we are to protect all our major ships. Successive governments have cut all our armed forces to such low level that we'd struggle to mount a task force like we did in '82. This is not the fault of the RN, RAF or Army. They are working hard with what they have so please black e the right people.

      In the mean time various countries are now working harder than ever before in joint operations. The recent visit to Portsmouth by the USS George H W Bush included American, British and Norwegian ships. They all met up with HMS Queen Elizabeth and the press covered that event.

      Whenever our last carriers went out to the middle east they had to play second fiddle to whichever US carrier that was stationed there. I guess next time we can take control.

      If you want to see the dangers of having just one carrier, please take a look across the other side of the channel. The French have just announced that their Charles de Gaul carrier will be having 3 years of major refit.

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      I'm not aware of any footage available to show any crash landings of the F35B yet, but no doubt they'll be keeping that footage tightly locked away.
      My Dad, who will be 85 this year, was an aircraft technician in the Fleet Air Arm during the late 1950s (until 1962). Portsmouth was his home base. He served on board most of the various carriers of the day. He's got some great photos somewhere, including a great series of black & white photos of a landing on one of the carriers that went slightly wrong and ended with a plane going over the side in flames. As a kid, I was enthralled by them. And by his various colourful squadron badges. If only he had taken that job with BOAC and moved my Mum & me down to the south coast when he left the service, instead of moving to the West Midlands (where my Mum is from) and working in the motor industry...
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