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    British mobile phone users’ movements 'could be sold for profit'

    This is a discussion on British mobile phone users’ movements 'could be sold for profit' within the General chat forums, part of the Community channel category; Well I may be a dinosaur but I don't use my smart phone most of the time. I much prefer ...

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      Re: British mobile phone users’ movements 'could be sold for profit'

      Well I may be a dinosaur but I don't use my smart phone most of the time. I much prefer my Nokia fold which has a much smaller footprint. Also I know where I am without the help of GPS!:-)


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      Re: British mobile phone users’ movements 'could be sold for profit'

      Not really the subject, but don't you think Apple have shot themselves in the foot? If they had quietly done as the FBI requested and unlocked the terrorist's phone, there would have been no worldwide publicity. As it stands FBI have proved that the phone's encryption can be broken, a fact which leaves Apple with egg on their face. If the FBI can do it, others can follow suite.

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      Re: British mobile phone users’ movements 'could be sold for profit'

      Regardless of the handset type you use, the mobile networks know exactly which mast you handset is currently connected to.

      With regards Apple, it's only the iPhone 5C or older that can be accessed via these various 'undisclosed' means. Since the iPhone 5S and all newer models (or the iPad Air and iPad Mini 2 upwards) that have at least the A7 CPU, Apple put what is a completely separate secure enclave system in them which is not accessible now even by Apple. Details about what Apple's secure enclave system entails can be found here.

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      Re: British mobile phone users’ movements 'could be sold for profit'

      At best Apple have made themselves an enemy (to the FBI at least).
      Yes they have been made to look foolish as well.
      There could well be legislation on the way that will stop anyone from selling phones that cannot be hacked by security services.

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      Re: British mobile phone users’ movements 'could be sold for profit'

      Quote Originally Posted by James_Mitchell View Post
      Regardless of the handset type you use, the mobile networks know exactly which mast you handset is currently connected to.

      With regards Apple, it's only the iPhone 5C or older that can be accessed via these various 'undisclosed' means. Since the iPhone 5S and all newer models (or the iPad Air and iPad Mini 2 upwards) that have at least the A7 CPU, Apple put what is a completely separate secure enclave system in them which is not accessible now even by Apple. Details about what Apple's secure enclave system entails can be found here.
      So if you forget your password, or it becomes corrupted in some way, your phone goes to the recycling plant?

      Until broken by the FBI Apple's security was supposed to be unbreakable. I have no doubt someone is working now on breaking the Secure Enclave.

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      Re: British mobile phone users’ movements 'could be sold for profit'

      Probably already broken by the same company, they're just keeping quiet.
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      Re: British mobile phone users’ movements 'could be sold for profit'

      Quote Originally Posted by marjohn56 View Post
      Probably already broken by the same company, they're just keeping quiet.
      Nobody can provide an unbreakable system from a security standpoint. Not iOS or Android. Its a constant game of cat and mouse between those that want to make a secure environment and those that want to break into it.

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      Re: British mobile phone users’ movements 'could be sold for profit'

      Quote Originally Posted by gatecrasher3 View Post
      Nobody can provide an unbreakable system from a security standpoint. Not iOS or Android. Its a constant game of cat and mouse between those that want to make a secure environment and those that want to break into it.
      Maybe not but they can always embed a "Trip wire" to run a secure deletion programme.

     

     
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