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    BT Goes Quad Play and Launches Cheap UK Consumer 4G Mobile Service

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      BT Goes Quad Play and Launches Cheap UK Consumer 4G Mobile Service

      BT Goes Quad Play and Launches Cheap UK Consumer 4G Mobile Service - ISPreview UK
      BT has today taken the wraps off their new 4G consumer mobile phone service (BTMobile), which is underpinned by EE’s national network and will turn the United Kingdom’s largest telecoms operator into a quad-play monster. The new SIM-Only tariffs start from just £5 a month for their existing broadband customers (prices rise by £5 for non-BT subscribers).

      Admittedly we’ve been here before, over a decade ago in fact, when BT had the makings of a good thing going via the BTCellnet (mmO2) division. Sadly financial pressures, partly stemming from BT’s over-expansion during the 1990s, ultimately resulted in Cellnet being demerged in 2002 and then gobbled up by Telefonica during 2005, which adopted today’s better known O2 brand.

      But over the past five years BT has repeatedly signaled an interest in returning to the mobile market (here) and last year they secured a new Mobile Virtual Network Operator (MVNO) partnership with EE, which replaced Vodafone. In the year before that they also grabbed a slice of the 2.6GHz radio spectrum band as part of Ofcom’s first 4G auction (here).

      Since then BT has reached a £12.5bn agreement to merge with EE which, once completed (most likely by early 2016), will give them a significant advantage by being able to leverage their existing fixed line network to support the mobile platform (i.e. undercut their rivals by reducing service delivery costs). But in the meantime they can still proceed, albeit not to the level they’d ideally like, through the MVNO partnership.

      The BT Mobile Plans


      Initially BT appears to be offering three SIM Only plans (they will add handset bundles too, but only once the EE deal has completed) and as you’d expect these include access to their live BTSport TV channels / content and public WiFi hotspots (even if you’re not a BT Broadband customer). But crucially existing BT broadband customers will also benefit from a £5 per month discount and without that the tariffs look distinctly less attractive.

      Each plan is based off a 12 month contract and also includes “family-friendly features“, such as the ability to set spending caps (avoid bill shocks) and the freedom to move between plans without taking out a new contract, even if customers want to move to a cheaper plan. Parental controls are also available, just the same as with other operators.

      BT Mobile 500MB Plan


      500MB Data

      200 Minutes
      Unlimited Texts
      PRICE: £5 per month (£10 without discount)

      BT Mobile 2GB Plan


      2GB Data

      500 Minutes
      Unlimited Texts
      PRICE: £12 per month (£17 without discount)

      BT Mobile 20GB Plan


      20GB Data

      Unlimited Minutes
      Unlimited Texts
      PRICE: £20 per month (£25 without discount)

      None of the plans are particularly impressive without the discount, although once you include that discount then they become a lot more competitive, including against Three UK (Three’s cheapest tariff is similar to BT Mobile 500MB, but costs £8 per month). Plus the BTSport and WiFi access features are very attractive as extras.

      It’s worth pointing out that Three’s “all-you-can-eat” data plans start at the lower price (vs BT Mobile 20GB) of £17 per month, although this only gives you 200 minutes and you have to pay a lot more for unlimited minutes as well as unlimited data (£27). By contrast EE’s closest option gives you just 5GB of data from a hefty £27.99.

      Apparently anyone in a BT Broadband household will be able to get the discounted price and a customer can have up to five mobile plans at the discounted rates for all of the family on a single bill.
      John Petter, CEO of BT Consumer, said:

      Offering BT customers the UK’s best value 4G data deal is a great way to start our journey towards re-establishing ourselves as a major player in consumer mobile.

      These great value deals are a thank you from us to loyal BT Broadband homes. We are offering customers a new type of great value mobile deal that offers more than just data, minutes and texts.


      We are offering 4G on the UK’s biggest network along with unlimited access to the most extensive wi-fi coverage via our 5m BT Wi-fi hotspot network. Plus BT Sport and a discount of up to 50 per cent on your mobile tariff if you are a BT Broadband customer.


      Our customers are consuming increasing amounts of data and they want the best possible connection wherever they are. It’s our ambition to meet this demand by combining the power of our fixed fibre service with wi-fi and the convenience of mobile
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      BT Mobile will also aim to harness the operators existing network of WiFi hotspots and home broadband routers, which will eventually be used to both improve indoor mobile coverage (Femtocell) and hand-off data / voice traffic via WiFi to save money (cheaper than using the mobile cell network).

      Obviously BT’s rivals haven’t been taking the operators move lightly and the market is now awash with convergence focused consolidation. For example, Vodafone has pledged to launch their own consumer broadband products sometime this spring, while Sky Broadband has signed an MVNO deal with O2 to go quad play (expected next spring) and Three UK’s parent has separately made a move to buy O2.

      Meanwhile the two existing quad-play operators, TalkTalk and Virgin Media, have already seen moderate to good success by offering a mobile service alongside their existing phone, broadband and TV products. Most traditional fixed line operators tend to see mobile more as a useful customer retention tool, while the primary operators of O2, Three UK, EE and Vodafone continue to hold the lion’s share of dedicated mobile subscriptions.

      Only time will tell whether BT’s offering is enough to break the established market and in order to do that it will first need to work as both an attractive bundled and standalone solution. So far they appear to be off to a good start, at least if you’re an existing BT broadband subscriber.

      It will also be interesting to see whether BT’s sibling, PlusNet, eventually follows suit to offer mobile services.

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      Sky need to bring forward the launch of their MVNO - next Spring is too long for customers to wait and for Sky to be missing out on a share of the quad play market!
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      Re: BT Goes Quad Play and Launches Cheap UK Consumer 4G Mobile Service

      Are those plans really 4g based, £5 for a 4g plan?
      Be a good starter for sky, for £5 a month id be happy for a sky mobile package to replace my £10 vodafone 500mb, 300 texts plan I've used for a good few years now.
      Would rarely use 200 mins a month for calls these days with access to web, chat, skype, email on wifi when out and about and sometimes 3g.

      The bt mobile offer may be a good way for those who want access to bt sport and don't want bt phone/broadband/
      Its £10 a month with no quad play option, free bt sport via the app and it looks like 4g

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      Re: BT Goes Quad Play and Launches Cheap UK Consumer 4G Mobile Service

      20GB per month even at £25 make most Pay-as-you-go contracts look poor for what they offer.

      However there are a couple of kicks which people should be aware of...

      There appears to be no mention of the ability or inability to run a WiFi Hotspot on your phone/MiFi

      The Free BT Sport App sounds great if you don't have BT Broadband, but its not written the same as if you had BT Broadband. I would take this to mean that you won't be able to watch BT Sport on your Sky TV box or pick it up via a IPTV box.

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      Re: BT Goes Quad Play and Launches Cheap UK Consumer 4G Mobile Service

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      20GB per month even at £25 make most Pay-as-you-go contracts look poor for what they offer.

      However there are a couple of kicks which people should be aware of...

      There appears to be no mention of the ability or inability to run a WiFi Hotspot on your phone/MiFi

      The Free BT Sport App sounds great if you don't have BT Broadband, but its not written the same as if you had BT Broadband. I would take this to mean that you won't be able to watch BT Sport on your Sky TV box or pick it up via a IPTV box.
      Its bt sport through the app, like sky go, which i use now using my parents bt id
      You can use chromecast on the bt app for fullscreen to your tv, no problem.

      Never had or forsee the need to run a wifi hotspot.
      free wifi or using sky wifi or bt wifi is so prevalent now, just plug into that when needed.

      I've also noticed they are offering free 0800 numbers in the plan and free voicemail.

      I wonder if currebt EE customers who are on contracts will move, and wonder if they can move over without penalty.
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      Re: BT Goes Quad Play and Launches Cheap UK Consumer 4G Mobile Service

      Even without the discount, BT's £25 plan offers 4 times as much data compared to EE's top SIM only plan they sell for £27.99 a month which only comes with 5Gb data and nothing else.

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      Re: BT Goes Quad Play and Launches Cheap UK Consumer 4G Mobile Service

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      There appears to be no mention of the ability or inability to run a WiFi Hotspot on your phone/MiFi
      Reportedly no tethering is allowed.
      http://jmcomms.com/2015/03/25/bt-mob...e-the-catches/

      So a good deal if that restriction itself is not a deal-breaker.
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      Re: BT Goes Quad Play and Launches Cheap UK Consumer 4G Mobile Service

      Thanks speedyrite. A shame as it means that you must buy a separate product if you want to connect your laptop say to the Internet when you are away.

      For me this seems to be a waste of money as I wouldn't want to pay for a 2nd 20GB per month when I might only use it 2 or 3 times a year.

      Mobile broadband was (since most now appear to prevent tethering) a great backup, but has been killed off in the name of greed IMHO.

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      Re: BT Goes Quad Play and Launches Cheap UK Consumer 4G Mobile Service

      Thank god for my useless work mobile, a Nokia/Windows something or other.

      Horrible OS, drops calls all the time and doesn't actually ring long enough to answer a call before it drops it anyway. However, it tethers like a train and the 10GB of 4G is very handy!

      I also have an EE contract phone which expires in September and we have already decided we won't be going down the contract route again so this could be interesting. But as others have mentioned, plenty of free wi-fi about, and I use the father in laws BT Sport app and Chromecast already.

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      Re: BT Goes Quad Play and Launches Cheap UK Consumer 4G Mobile Service

      Free WiFi is great, however it doesn't address all the reasons you may want dealt with.

      Last year when on holiday in Northern Ireland, where we were staying didn't have a land line, let alone WiFi free or otherwise. MiFi was the only solution.

      As mobile reception was 'pants' I stuck the external aerial outside on the window and got a reasonable signal.

      I plan to take it with me on holiday later this year too. Whilst I shan't be able to use it as much, it will be nice when I can use it as the WiFi where I'm staying isn't cheap.

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