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    This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Nothing wrong with wanting child porn off (or reduced) on the Internet... But at what price though? This'll escalate out of control. I predict sites that tell you how to burn movie files onto CD will start getting blocked. Saying words like '****' will get you blocked from the internet altogether temporality.

      Trust me, it'll get more extreme in years to come. I can even see us being temporality blocked just for arguing over the Internet


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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Btw they should tell you if youre being blocked but they don't. A msg should display saying IWF or your ISP has blocked this site/download or something.

      And ISP's should start telling people in their terms that they block websites

      It's not right that they keep this info hidden from the masses

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      And ISP's should start telling people in their terms that they block websites
      For goodness sake take the time to read the T & Cs before you go spouting off,-
      We have put technical measures in place to prevent you from accessing certain websites that contain illegal images of child abuse that are identified from time to time by the Internet Watch Foundation ("IWF"). Although these filters are comprehensive, they do not provide an absolute guarantee that you will be unable to view such illegal images on the internet. In addition, these measures do not filter other content which you may find distasteful, such as "adult" material. On this basis, we recommend that you consider installing additional software on your computer to prevent access to inappropriate websites or content on the internet.
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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

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      For goodness sake take the time to read the T & Cs before you go spouting off,-
      I have but I can't find anything about it.

      That is if you are with Sky, your Profile indicates otherwise.
      Pretty much all ISP's have signed up to it. They were forced to really by the government. They had no choice anyway because not signing up to a site that was set up to get rid of 'child porn' would damage your reputation.

      Hypocritical though, isn't it? Btw do you even go to prison anymore for watching child porn? lol

      The government doesn't give 2 rats ass about child porn, they just want to reduce piracy

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      I have but I can't find anything about it.
      Do you think I just made that quote up? Here they are in full-
      Sky Terms and Conditions - Broadband

      Btw do you even go to prison anymore for watching child porn? lol
      This is the first thing thrown up by Google, read it and learn
      Former Brighton teacher jailed for child porn | Crimestoppers UK

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      Do you think I just made that quote up? Here they are in full-
      Sky Terms and Conditions - Broadband
      Dude what it fails to mention in there is that you don't have to breach anything to be blocked (or restricted).


      This is the first thing thrown up by Google, read it and learn
      Former Brighton teacher jailed for child porn | Crimestoppers UK
      Dude I was jokingly exaggerating because the length of the sentences are laughable. Our justice system is a joke.

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Why not take a different approach to this issue?

      This group is full of a whole range of people with different skills & backgrounds. People will come from a different walks of life and have varying opinions.

      Rather than bash your head in agreement over banning Child Porn with the vast majority, why not work out how to prevent it and talk with the IWF.

      I don't have the technical knowledge, expertise or access to gather all this information, but I am sure that if this is important enough to you, then you could work with the IWF and fix things.

      So why not take up the matter of sites being incorrectly blocked with them, since it is they who determine which places are blocked and how they are blocked.

      This forum is for those people who have purchased BSkyB Products and desire some level of support in fixing those items.

      Whilst this section of the forum is for general chat, I very much doubt if the membership has the collective knowledge and ability to rewrite every ISP's filtration system.

      There are some specific laws in the UK that ban child porn. Unfortunately not only is it extremely hard to capture it all before someone can download it, but the people trying to stop it will make some 'mistakes' in preventing innocent people from accessing sites that are being used to transmit the content.

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      I just might do that because their strategy doesn't make any sense. A kid is hardly going to accidentally stumble across child porn (this is child porn we're talking about, you need to type it down, actually go looking for it) and pedos can easily use proxies to bypass the block.

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      a) it is not acceptable to leave child pornography on the net to be easly found. All measures should be taken

      b) the type of sites are not just to show images but to lure kids in (grooming) and as such the sort of search terms that kids use would throw up child porn sites

      We should do everything possible to stop this and if that means we lose some legit sites, then so be it. Those sites need to prove to the IWF that they have effective measures in place to not host or link to inappropriate material and to be providing the Police with tip offs for those users trying to distro it.

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      We should block the entire Internet. Shut it all down. Or shutdown all forms of file transferring. But I say shut it all down because there will always be ways of transferring files. 1 child being abused should = No value. Let's stop it happening online altogether.

     

     
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