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    This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

    This is a discussion on This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it within the General chat forums, part of the Community channel category; It'll get worse. It gives too much power to the public and that worries me because people will start reporting ...

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      It'll get worse. It gives too much power to the public and that worries me because people will start reporting you over nothing just because THEY find your opinion offensive. You'll wake up one morning to find that you cannot access your blogs or whatever and you'll be like 'Huh?'

      You're connected to the web, the world, and countries have different belief systems. Yes, it'll get worse. I've had computers for years and that's me just finding out about IWF and how it works.


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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      If I was you I'd stop reading Big Brother and spend the millions you must have already made.


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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      I read that the album cover of that 70s album was blocked because the IWF staff thought it was perverse (and still do btw) and that people appealed and got the decision overturned.

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      "British ISPs were later obligated by the government to implement filters for illegal content by the beginning of 2007"

      Interesting... I noticed the Internet was faster before 2007

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Complaining works lol I recieved this reply from the IWF

      I am sorry to hear that you are unable to access legitimate parts of some websites from your broadband service provider.



      IWF does not itself block websites but does provide a list of URLs for member organisations to facilitate URL blocking (not IP address or domain level blocking) ensuring that only the exact URLs containing the potentially illegal content is blocked. Please bear in mind that the blocking solutions are owned and operated by the IWF URL licensees and are not under the direct control of the IWF.



      We are deeply concerned about the issue raised by you and would like to investigate it further. However I would be grateful if you could provide the websites you were unable to access and ISP and approximate date and time of access for us to take it up with the relevant provider.



      I hope this has helped however please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any further questions.



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      Fileserve isn't blocked for me anymore lol

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Quote Originally Posted by urismarine View Post
      Complaining works lol I recieved this reply from the IWF



      Fileserve isn't blocked for me anymore lol
      If you think your complaint to the IWF got the ban lifted, you are very naive.

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Quote Originally Posted by urismarine View Post
      I read that the album cover of that 70s album was blocked because the IWF staff thought it was perverse (and still do btw) and that people appealed and got the decision overturned.
      Their reasons for lifting the ban were covered here:- Wikipedia ban lifted by UK's Internet Watch Foundation | Technology | guardian.co.uk

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      What is laughable is that both the ISP and the IWF deny doing the actual blocking lol The ISP say they don't block any websites when you phone them and the IWF shove the blame over to the ISP lol

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Quote Originally Posted by urismarine View Post
      What is laughable is that both the ISP and the IWF deny doing the actual blocking lol The ISP say they don't block any websites when you phone them and the IWF shove the blame over to the ISP lol
      I explained who does what here:- http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/gener...tml#post309928
      Sky run the filtering proxies on their own network, the IWF provide the blacklist, the filtering software is apparently provided by a third party.
      The ISP is ultimately to blame for the issues it is causing you, as it is they who run the proxy and chose the filtering software which they use to implement the IWF blacklist.

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Quote Originally Posted by fuzzy logic View Post
      I explained who does what here:- http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/gener...tml#post309928


      The ISP is ultimately to blame for the issues it is causing you, as it is they who run the proxy and chose the filtering software which they use to implement the IWF blacklist.

      “ISPs would feel compelled to block a site simply because a rights holder claims there is infringing material on it, rather than because of a court decision,” said Simon Milner, group director of industry policy at BT"

      The government forced a lot of ISP's to go along with it. What I find funny about it is that ISP's hate to admit it lol

      Edit: So much for democracy eh?

     

     
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