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    This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

    This is a discussion on This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it within the General chat forums, part of the Community channel category; Many popular sites have been blocked with this filter. Not long ago one of the most popular sites on the ...

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Many popular sites have been blocked with this filter. Not long ago one of the most popular sites on the internet was blocked. This was not a site sharing dubious files, but one hosting the blogs of world renowned figures. I can't remember exactly what one it was but it created quite a stir at the time. Some members of this forum had their websites blocked just because they were on the same server. Maybe someone will recall the incident I am referring to?

      The IWF is not perfect by any means, but until governments get together to solve the problem, they are the next best thing.

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      They don't appear to be targeting the billion dollar corporations though. I donno if you read about this but an undercover detective signed up to bebo as a 'kid' & recieved over 1000 friend requests overnight, the majority adult males wanting to exchange pics.

      Sky & Virgin Media have signed up to it & both offer movie packages that they ask you to pay for

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      Many popular sites have been blocked with this filter. Not long ago one of the most popular sites on the internet was blocked.
      They blocked an article on Wikipedia over a picture on a 1970's album cover, with the side effect of prevented anonymous users editing any wikipedia articles and also preventing new users from registering. But oddly while they apparently blocked the URL of the article, they didn't block the URL of the album image itself! They also didn't block other even more questionable album covers on the site, and they didn't block other images of the album on google images either. Apparently the block, whic hwas trivial to circumvent generated a significant number of pageviews of the article and its offending image in the UK.

      Apparently they've also managed to block the entire wayback machine's web archive in the past:-.Internet Watch Foundation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Yeah I read about that. IWF blocked an album cover on Wiki for a while and then, out of the blue, decided it wasn't offensive anymore & unblocked it.

      Then why block it in the first place?

      That's what this causes.

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      I am happy that everyone has agreed on one issue: Child Abuse needs to be stopped.

      Unfortunately when it means that a site you use does not have the same philosophy, it seems that is where we all disagree.

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Quote Originally Posted by urismarine View Post
      Yeah I read about that. IWF blocked an album cover on Wiki for a while and then, out of the blue, decided it wasn't offensive anymore & unblocked it.

      Then why block it in the first place?
      The answer to your question is the word "decided" in your first sentence.
      It was obviously blocked for a reason, that probably being that they hadnt decided it was appropriate or whatever.
      It might have seemed "out of the blue" to you who had no inside information about the process that was going on to decide whether it was appropriate or not.


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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Quote Originally Posted by dholdi View Post
      The answer to your question is the word "decided" in your first sentence.
      It was obviously blocked for a reason, that probably being that they hadnt decided it was appropriate or whatever.
      It might have seemed "out of the blue" to you who had no inside information about the process that was going on to decide whether it was appropriate or not.
      Yeah the BBFC blocked the 'Texas Chain Saw Massacre' film for while and then decided it was ok to air about 30 years later.

      How long does the deciding process usually take? Because it took a while... And why am I being punished for not being a pedophile?

      What if it was your site? Holy ****...

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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Quote Originally Posted by urismarine View Post
      Yeah the BBFC blocked the 'Texas Chain Saw Massacre' film for while and then decided it was ok to air about 30 years later.

      How long does the deciding process usually take? Because it took a while... And why am I being punished for not being a pedophile?
      Bit of a difference between an album cover and TCSM. 30 years ago the film would probably not have been appropriate for the censoring laws then. Now there are appropriate levels of censorship.

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      What if it was your site? Holy ****...
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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      Quote Originally Posted by dholdi View Post
      Bit of a difference between an album cover and TCSM. 30 years ago the film would probably not have been appropriate for the censoring laws then. Now there are appropriate levels of censorship.



      Choose a different hosting company ?
      And the BBFC make those laws. Read up what the BBFC actually does.

      Another hosting site? This 'deciding' process is costing me millions and yet I'm well within the law to have that site.

      I'd be ****** off And another hosting site? But when will that site be next on their list?

      Edit: And what if people abuse it? Lots of people get offended over nothing. It'll get to that stage where people will get you blocked if they don't like your opinion (or at least blocked for a while anyway)
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      Re: This is wrong and ISP's should not be part of it

      IWF advertise child molestation is that ok. The answer is NO. In 30 years the answer will still be No. As been said I am sure you will find a ISP that do not block IWF. But remember Big Brother is watching everyone.

     

     
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