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    This is a discussion on freeview through sky box within the Freesat forums, part of the Sky & Sky+ TV category; Correct me if I'm wrong, but FreeSat uses their own Satellites. These are located at a fraction different to the ...

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      Re: freeview through sky box

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but FreeSat uses their own Satellites. These are located at a fraction different to the Sky Satellites, hence most people can view both systems off the one dish.

      If you use the Sky Box to receive the 'Freeview' channels, aren't they actually coming off Sky's Satellites?

      So for Sky to ask people to pay for the Viewing card that allows you to see the free content that is streamed off their own Satellite networks is surely a fair deal IMHO.

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      Re: freeview through sky box

      You are wrong.
      There are no Sky or Freesat satellites.

      Europe, Africa & Middle East - LyngSat

      At 28.2 degrees east there are Astra 2A,2B and 2D.
      At 28.5 degrees east there is Eurobird 1.
      Both are received by a single dish.

      The broadcasters rent transponders on these satellites.
      It is up to them if they encrypt their signals.

      Whether it is right that only one dominant company has control of the encryption system is another matter.

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      Re: freeview through sky box

      The only differences between Sky & Freesat is that Sky use their own EPG to access the channels, and the Sky box has inbuilt decryption. With Freesat, only unencrypted channels can be viewed without the use of a CAM (Conditional Access Module), and the Programme Guide is totally different to Sky's.

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      Re: freeview through sky box

      Freesat is only an EPG. It's nothing else. The content is available to both Sky and Freesat as well as 3rd party FTA boxes. Sky (and others like EPSN) choose to encrypt so they can charge for content. Others like the BBC choose to be in the clear and are available on Sky, Freesat and FTA. A few chose the FTV route (where the signal is encrypted and a card is needed to view them but no subscription is payable).

      Freesat isn't free. You HAVE to buy a Freesat receiver otherwise you can't use Freesat's EPG. You can use a Sky box to watch all Freesat channels but you can't watch all Sky Freesat channels on a Freesat box. The card you need gives access to FTV encrypted channels. So if you complain about the cost of such a card then moving to Freesat won't help because you won't receive the channels the card decrypts.

      Your choice. But it seems at a cost of about 5/year it's hardly worth worrying about. If you don't want the extra programmes don't pay the price of a card.

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      Re: freeview through sky box

      Ok, I stand corrected (it's a while since I was involved in looking through the satellites & what they broadcast). I based my response on a story some time back where I witnessed someone's dish being realigned because it wasn't picking up Freesat, only Sky. The result was that the person could now receive both.

      There are some other minor differences between the Sky & FreeSat boxes. The FreeSat boxes have BBC iPlayer & ITV Player built in. Sky is attempting to include BBC & ITV shows in it's Anytime+ service, but technically there should be nothing stopping it from adopting this process instead.

      You are still using the technology that Sky developed to view the content (i.e. their EPG).

      So in essence, Sky do have a right to charge a one-off fee for you to obtain a card that enables your Sky Box to view only the free channels.

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      Re: freeview through sky box

      this is a sky box i bought when digital first came out and its been using freeview for about 3 years. surely its a breach of the trade description if you call it free then charge 25 whenever you feel like it
      It is not a case of charging 'whenever you feel like it'. The cards are changed every 3-4 years for security reasons and to update the facilities it provides. If you were a Pay Once or Digital switchover customer, you would also receive a free card.
      http://www1.sky.com/skyviewinghelp/

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      Re: freeview through sky box

      w0w this has certainly got the sky fanboys up in arms
      ill be sure to tune in next time sky increase the subscription by a 1 and see how many whinge then (and yes i subscribe too but i dont mind paying for that coz i know it isnt free)
      this is no different to anyone who bought a freeview box a few years back being charge to continue to watch tv, afterall i bought this sky box too!!
      anyways i can see its all falling on deaf ears so i hope you lot keep paying whenever old rupert says so, no wonder this is called rip off Britain with so many quitters who fail to stand up for whats right

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