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    Who has the right to use our roads?

    This is a discussion on Who has the right to use our roads? within the Everyday Life forums, part of the Community channel category; Today Emma Way has been convicted of failing to stop after an accident she tweeted about when she hit a ...

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      Who has the right to use our roads?

      Today Emma Way has been convicted of failing to stop after an accident she tweeted about when she hit a cyclist.

      Motorist who posted #bloodycyclists on Twitter after bike collision is sentenced | UK | News | Daily Express

      Lorries often cut up cyclists on the road and many drivers tend to start shouting at cyclists for "getting in the way" or other issues. Of course this isn't limited to just UK drivers either. I suspect that many of the lorries coming in from the continent are just as guilty.

      Now I am not saying that cyclists are perfect. All too often I see them cycling across pedestrian crossings, jumping traffic lights when they are at red or riding in a dangerous manner on the "footpath".

      Personally I believe that this is just as wrong and dangerous.

      In recent weeks the press has taken to publishing how many cyclists have been killed in the London area. Sadly this is already too many.

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      The Highway Code is the definitive guide for ALL users of public highways (including cyclists and pedestrians). The latter two groups often seem to have other ideas. It's a pity that cycles don't have to carry third party insurance as this might make their users a little more aware.

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      I don't mind cyclists but they do have a death wish, too many times have I seen a cyclist ride straight through red light on a busy road in London at night. If they jump a red light at a box junction then unfortunately get hit by an on coming car who has right of way then its the cyclist fault, not the driver of the car.

      Some of them don't have lights either, I'm a strong believer that all vehicles on the road should have their lights on regardless of the time of day, I always drive with headlights on (I suppose this has came out of habit as 80% of my driving is at night time and its an auto reflex to turn the lights on after the start the vehicle).
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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      Many will argue about the lack of insurance that cyclists have. This could certainly help but then most of the 'accidents' which they may cause will be low impact and far less damage than a car or motorbike could cause.

      Other will argue about "Road Tax" but is hasn't been called that for many years now. It is called "Vehicle Excise Duty".

      This morning's BBC Breakfast carried an article about a cyclist and lorry driver who did the same journey. This is a related article:

      BBC News - The lorry driver's eye view of London cyclists

      ...and one from the cyclist's perspective:
      BBC News - Olympic cyclist Chris Boardman calls for road changes

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      The Nation's roads are far too overcrowded and dangerous for cyclists and bikers. Dedicated cycle lanes are mostly a sick joke.

      A minor fenderbender in a car can result in death or life changing injuries for bikers or cyclists.

      IMO they are naive or as already been mentioned, have a death wish.

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      Most cyclists that I see on the roads have no lights and ignore traffic lights and are a danger to themselves.

      I support cyclists being on the road if there is no designated cycle path but they must obey the rules of the road and make themselves visible with at least lights front and back.

      I was convinced during the six years I commuted to London that I would end up killing a cyclist because of the way they rode recklessly ignoring any rules of the road and as if they were immortal!

      Luckily, I didn't.

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      Last night was waiting at a set of light controlled road works, the lights both sides are at red so no traffic coming in other direction, pedal cycle comes along on wrong side of the road, no lights in black clothing, road works were replacing street lights so they weren't on either, as he got near the front of the of the line of traffic the lights changed, he swerved onto the pavement, as the traffic pulled into his path, as they couldn't see him. Crazy

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      I think that the harshest law is the one which is frequently used in the cyclist's favour...

      Essentially if a motor vehicle hits a cyclist, then they are at fault.

      The excuse being that the driver should also be looking for a pedestrian.

      Taking janitor's example above though, I do not see many pedestrians walking along a road of moving traffic where there is a footpath and where the traffic is controlled along a single lane by traffic lights.

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      As said before everything is laid out perfectly clearly in the highway code, shame where I live I'm the only bugger who's read it!!

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      Don't get me started on pedestrians walking in the road, not so much where I live now, but near my old address always had people walking in the road, or even standing in the road, wearing dark clothing, I used to walk to work in the dark, always used hi vis, but seems bikers and pedestrians don't bother.

     

     
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