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    Who has the right to use our roads?

    This is a discussion on Who has the right to use our roads? within the Everyday Life forums, part of the Community channel category; Originally Posted by andrewjr I don't mind cyclists but they do have a death wish .... I can certainly emphasise ...

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      Quote Originally Posted by andrewjr View Post
      I don't mind cyclists but they do have a death wish ....
      I can certainly emphasise with this! However I think the majority of cyclists are responsible and safe, and we should encourage more of them onto the roads.

      I think - perhaps due to a lack of those reading the highway code, coipu! - however that there in the UK cars and cyclists do not sit comfortably on our roads together. As Chris in the second clip posted by Scubbie says, 'we need to change the culture of how we use our roads' to both encourgae cyclists to use them, but also to keep them safe, without penalizing drivers.

      Berlin is perhaps a good example of a city that is great for cycling, without being detrimental to the experience of other roads users.

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      Yes there are some good cyclists out there, generally the ones who have very expensive equipment, used to work with someone who's bike and clothing cost over 3000, the general problem seems to be the ones who just see it as cheap transport, and ride badly maintained bikes, no protective clothing and no helmet or bright clothing.

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      I see that no-one has mentioned the cycling clubs. Those people who should know better. They sometimes ride four or five deep in lines several cyclists long. Don't beep them to warn them that you are there (I don't) because all you will get is a tirade of abuse and many finger flips. These people seem to think they own the roads and they do not they should obey the highway code like everyone else.
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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      A few questions for everyone:


      1. What is the correct method for a vehicle to overtake a cyclist?
      2. What is the correct place a cyclist should be in when on a single carriageway?
      3. Can you overtake a cyclist in an area where there are double white lines in the middle of the road or a single solid white line on your side of the road?

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      1. go round it
      2. on the saddle
      3. not if you're walking.

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      1. Give the same space as you would a car, 1m in town 1.5m on open road.
      2. Single file on left hand side.
      3. Yes if the cyclist is moving at less than 10mph.

      Over sixty years ago I was fined 10 shillings, a lot of money in those days, for cycling on the pavement. The only reason I was on the pavement was the whole road was dug up to install a new sewer, but the cop wasn't interested in excuses.
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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      1. Give the same space as you would a car, 1m in town 1.5m on open road.
      2. Single file on left hand side.
      3. Yes if the cyclist is moving at less than 10mph.
      Almost correct, but pretty close.

      1. Mirror (centre mirror, right mirror), signal right (as required), move out gently and give room equal to the height of the cyclist (as they are sat on cycle). This could be as much as 2.5m. Also you may need to adjust your speed in order to reduce "windrush".

      2. The cyclist should be upwards of 1m from the curb to avoid rain grate. They can ride up to two abreast, although this is not in law, only recommended in the highway code.

      3. It is actually 15mph (checked with a driving instructor). You should not cross more than two wheels (car) over the white line/s and only do so when safe and absolutely necessary. Of course it would be illegal to overtake anything when approacing a pedestrian crossing when in the zigzag area of said crossing.

      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      Over sixty years ago I was fined 10 shillings, a lot of money in those days, for cycling on the pavement. The only reason I was on the pavement was the whole road was dug up to install a new sewer, but the cop wasn't interested in excuses.
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      Most people get away with this today. Personally I am happy for children to ride carefully on the footpath, but not adults. They should be on the road and wearing suitable clothing so that other road users can see them. I believe that the fine is currently 10.

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      Quote Originally Posted by janitor View Post
      Last night was waiting at a set of light controlled road works, the lights both sides are at red so no traffic coming in other direction, pedal cycle comes along on wrong side of the road, no lights in black clothing, road works were replacing street lights so they weren't on either, as he got near the front of the of the line of traffic the lights changed, he swerved onto the pavement, as the traffic pulled into his path, as they couldn't see him. Crazy
      I've seen a few (And only just about I might add) riding on country roads in the dark with no lights and dark clothing.

      Also IMO the front lights on bikes shouldn't have a flashing option It's bloody horrible if one is behind you... (Not sure if it's even legal to have the front one flashing?)

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      Re: Who has the right to use our roads?

      Unfortunately for you dragon, the flashing lights are legal.

      They do attract the attention of drivers better than the steady lights do, but IMHO don't allow the cyclist to use them to see where they are going on dark unlite roads.

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