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    Save The Hobbit

    This is a discussion on Save The Hobbit within the Everyday Life forums, part of the Community channel category; The Hobbit pub has been accused of copyright infringement by lawyers representing the Saul Zaentz Company (SZC) in California. Mr ...

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      Save The Hobbit

      The Hobbit pub has been accused of copyright infringement by lawyers representing the Saul Zaentz Company (SZC) in California.
      Mr Fry, in New Zealand working on the forthcoming film of the Hobbit, called it "pointless, self-defeating bullying".

      BBC News - Stephen Fry backs Hobbit pub in Southampton over legal action

      How ridiculous is that?

      If anyone wants to try and help,

      https://twitter.com/#!/savethehobbit

      https://www.facebook.com/SaveTheHobbitSouthampton
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      Re: Save The Hobbit

      Quote Originally Posted by NewsreadeR View Post
      The Hobbit pub has been accused of copyright infringement by lawyers representing the Saul Zaentz Company (SZC) in California. [...] If anyone wants to try and help, https://twitter.com/#!/savethehobbit https://www.facebook.com/SaveTheHobbitSouthampton
      This is ridiculous. After 20 years shouldn't they have some kind of customary right? It looks like a great bar and they really don't deserve this. I'm definitely sharing this on facebook.

      Good, old Stephen Fry
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      Re: Save The Hobbit

      We've had this story aired on our local news for a few days now.

      I am surprised that the yanks have taken 20 years to catch up to what has been happening, but then they are about to release a whole new remake film of The Hobbit and plan to make $millions from as much merchandising as possible, whilst denying anyone else the opportunity to make a living.

      What upsets me on this is that Tolkien was an English Author, not a Yank.

      Tolkien was born in Bournemouth. He actually lived in the Oxford area when he wrote The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. Southampton is in a different county and any true followers who have an interest are not going to travel from the States to Southampton just to see this pub, although they may visit due to the larger interest in the sinking of the Titanic this month.

      Perhaps it should be renamed "The Sinking Ship" or "Iceberg". I can see lots of spin-offs from that theme, such as Ice is every drink, the band must always play until after closing time.

      Opps! Sorry, I guess the Hollywood own the rights to that part of British History too.

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      Re: Save The Hobbit

      Apparently there is some news coming at 7pm

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      Re: Save The Hobbit

      It isn't just Southampton that is being targeted: BBC News - Birmingham's Hobbit cafe may change name over legal row

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      Re: Save The Hobbit

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      It isn't just Southampton that is being targeted: BBC News - Birmingham's Hobbit cafe may change name over legal row
      If wikipedia can be believed, the word "hobbit" pre-dates Tolkien :- Hobbit (word) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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      Re: Save The Hobbit

      Yes, anyone claiming to own the copyright of the Denham Tracts could really put the cat among the pigeons.
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      Re: Save The Hobbit

      The issue isn't so much whether the word was in use before Tolkein used it, but more to do with the way it is being used. The pub after all does take things further by the theme being loosely based on the book.

      However, there is some good news:

      BBC News - Hobbit pub row: Hollywood producer makes offer
      ..."Regardless of the size of the company, if we didn't go after these infringements, then other people would say 'if they can use them without authorisation, why can't we?'
      "When it's an established business, we like to get the company to acknowledge they are using our trademarks, stop selling infringing articles and then we will grant them a licence for a nominal fee - approximately $100 a year.

      "We asked to them to contact us and amicably resolve this and are open to any suggestions they have. I'd be glad to raise a pint with them the next time I'm over."...
      BBC News - Hobbit pub row: Landlady overwhelmed by support
      The landlady of a pub threatened with legal action by a Hollywood film company says she is overwhelmed by the support the pub has had.

      The Hobbit pub in Southampton had been accused of copyright infringement by lawyers representing the Saul Zaentz Company (SZC) in California.

      A Facebook campaign set up by the pub's users has more than 50,000 supporters.

      Hollywood film SZC company has offered to "amicably resolve" the dispute over its name and decor...

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      Re: Save The Hobbit

      Yes, but the issue with "the hungry hobbit" cafe does appear from the news item to be the use of hobbit in the name. But no doubt the cafe won't want to fight it due to the legal fees.

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      Re: Save The Hobbit

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      The issue isn't so much whether the word was in use before Tolkein used it, but more to do with the way it is being used. The pub after all does take things further by the theme being loosely based on the book.

      However, there is some good news:

      BBC News - Hobbit pub row: Hollywood producer makes offer
      Seems like SZC likes a good legal row...Not just with small pubs, but also big shots like New Line Cinema.
      How can they be so petty? I know it's their trademark, but if they felt so strongly about it they could have done the legal stuff years ago.

      My guess is that "any publicity is good publicity", is their motto for this gig?
      They might be the villain for everyone for a bit, but since they "generously" offered a deal to the pub it'll all work out in the end. people will talk about the film before it gets aired and sales will rise.

      So, SZC, be good girls and boys and go say thank you to "The Hobbit" for giving you practically free publicity.

     

     

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