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    ADSL Nation NTE-2005 Master face plate

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      Re: ADSL Nation NTE-2005 Master face plate

      So is it correct then to say that all i have to do is fit the face plate putting in the 3 wires that are already at the master socket into terminals 2,3 & 5 along with the 3 wires i want to use for the extension cable( to be used for sky box upstairs)
      With the faceplate serving my telephone,downstairs sky box and ethernet cable to my router.

      Ie there being no cables fitted to the Blue terminals A & B

      Is it also correct that only two wires max can be connected to the terminals in the box ?

      Also my router is going to be next to a cordless telephone base unit does that matter.

      Thanks for any help


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      Re: ADSL Nation NTE-2005 Master face plate

      That is correct no wires need to be connected to the A&B terminals as you will be connecting the router to the front of the faceplate. If you are using a plastic tool it is difficult to get more than 2 wires in each IDC slot. With a professional metal tool it is a lot easier and you should be able to get up to 4 in as long as the wire is nice and flat when you punch it in.

      Ideally you should keep your router more than a meter away from the DECT base, but it is probably not going to cause any problems as they run on different bands.
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      Re: ADSL Nation NTE-2005 Master face plate

      Hi,

      Looking for advice as to whether fitting an XTE2005 is like to improve my speeds drastically.

      I currently have a BT master socket which has a microfilter in it. The phone side of the microfilter has a "normal" splitter in it which goes to the phone and Sky+ digibox.

      My ADSL modem (Sky) is connected, via a microfilter, to an extension in the study. This extension is a "properly wired behind the wall" type (as opposed to a length of Homebase/B&Q extension cable) which I believed is wired into the back of the face plate on the master socket.

      If I get an XTE2005 would:

      1) I be correct in thinking I could then plug the "phone splitter" directly into the phone socket on the new face plate, and plug the ADSL modem directly into the extension "face plate" ?

      2) I get any improvement in my SNR and speeds ? I can't really test using the "test socket" as my PC doesn't have a wireless adapter and moving the PC to the masket socket is not easy.

      TIA for any help.

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      Re: ADSL Nation NTE-2005 Master face plate

      The original BT (Pressac) filtered faceplate did not have any terminals for running an unfiltered extension. So my guess is that your extension has been (incorrectly) wired to the back of the NTE-5 box and the extension is a master box with a ring capacitor in it.

      The fact that your extension is a hardwired one as apposed to a plug-in one doesn't really make much difference. It is the type of cable that is used that is important. Many hardwired extensions are wired using what is described as telephone cable but is in fact alarm cable. This sort of cable is not twisted pair and therfore will be subject to interference. If the cable used is CW1308 or CAT5 twisted pair cable then all is good.

      If you unplug everything from the front of your current faceplate does your ADSL improve ? If it makes no difference then changing to an XTE-2005 won't make any difference as the job of the filter is to remove the ADSL signal from the telephone equipment. Without any telephone equipment connected the filter is not needed and will show you what the maximum you will be able to achieve without re-wiring.

      The biggest gains with the XTE-2005 are when you are replacing plug-in filters with the faceplate as you are not only upgrading the filter you are isolating the ADSL signal at the eariest oppertunity.
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      Re: ADSL Nation NTE-2005 Master face plate

      Quote Originally Posted by adslnation View Post
      The original BT (Pressac) filtered faceplate did not have any terminals for running an unfiltered extension. So my guess is that your extension has been (incorrectly) wired to the back of the NTE-5 box and the extension is a master box with a ring capacitor in it.
      My wording may have confused in my original post. I have a "bog standard" BT master socket. There is a microfilter plugged into the front of this and a "phone splitter" plugged into the phone side of the microfilter.

      If I take the front of the face plate off, then there is a wire that goes off in the direction of the extension (I have already disconnected the ring wire from the master socket). In the study there is what looks like a "master faceplate" only it is flush against the wall. Into this I have plugged another microfilter and I the ADSL modem is plugged into the ADSL side of this microfilter.

      Quote Originally Posted by adslnation View Post
      If you unplug everything from the front of your current faceplate does your ADSL improve ? If it makes no difference then changing to an XTE-2005 won't make any difference as the job of the filter is to remove the ADSL signal from the telephone equipment. Without any telephone equipment connected the filter is not needed and will show you what the maximum you will be able to achieve without re-wiring.
      I'll give that a try when I get home.

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      Re: ADSL Nation NTE-2005 Master face plate

      Ok - update time.

      Just checked behind my "master" socket's faceplate again (to see what kind of wiring was used for the extension) and found that - and I don't how I missed this when removing the ring wire months ago but - there isn't a test socket there.

      So does this mean this isn't a "master" socket after all ?? It's the first socket the BT phoneline goes into once it enters the house !!

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      Re: ADSL Nation NTE-2005 Master face plate

      It may well be a master socket but it is not a modern NTE-5.
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      Re: ADSL Nation NTE-2005 Master face plate

      Quote Originally Posted by adslnation View Post
      It may well be a master socket but it is not a modern NTE-5.
      Ok.

      so how easy and/or legal is it to upgrade to a modern NTE-5 and then subsequently put an XTE on instead ?

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      Re: ADSL Nation NTE-2005 Master face plate

      Just fitted my face plate, removed 4 filters and saw my download speed double! Fitted it my NTL NTE5 socket - diverted BT's wiring from their LJU2/2A to the NTL NTE5 and disconnected the NTL wiring. On the far extension socket feeding the router I used both the blue and orange pairs doubled up. If BT ever call round I'll blame the previous owner..lol.

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      Re: ADSL Nation NTE-2005 Master face plate

      The sticky on the NTE-2005 face plate says:

      "- - - IDC Terminals on the rear allow connection of hardwired telephone extensions, both filtered and unfiltered terminals are provided. The extra unfiltered terminals make it possible to filter all telephone sockets while allowing the connection of an extension for a modem that is not filtered.- - - "

      Where are the unfiltered IDC connectors? Am I correct in assuming these are A an B on the faceplate connector strip? I intend to run an unfiltered CAT5 cable from the master socket to my den and install a dedicated modem socket there.

      EDIT: I don't wan't to use the front ADSL socket for the CAT5 extension. I'd like to hard wire it from the back and bury the cable in the wall.

      Cheers, JaX
      Last edited by JaXanim; 12-05-07 at 02:50 PM.

     

     
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