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    This is a discussion on Fitting filtered faceplate within the Cabling and faceplate help forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; Just found my internal wiring has went kaput recently. As I've said on the forum a few times, I'm 12km ...

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      Fitting filtered faceplate

      Just found my internal wiring has went kaput recently. As I've said on the forum a few times, I'm 12km from my exchange, so 1.4mbps is the highest I've ever seen. Recently, however, the sync speed has dropped to 1.1mbps and the connection has been dropping out and SNRs sit very low. I haven't really bothered to sort it out, but today I thought I'd sort it.

      Had tried everything (bar trying the test socket) -

      - Tried a phase 2 netgear, sagem & d-link
      - Numerous filters (non sky and sky)
      - Numerous dsl cables
      - No PSTN noise/issues

      Strangely, my SNRs drop even further when a TV in the living room is turned on. RF noise, I guess. Notice the 3 hours uptime when the tv was first turned on in the morning. Here's the stats -

      Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
      WAN PPPoA 26526 44216 0 262 5159 03:06:20
      LAN 0 0 0 0 0 00:00:00
      WLAN 2685500 1462826 0 192254 11818 03:06:10
      ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
      Connection Speed 1184 kbps 768 kbps
      Line Attenuation 61.5db 31.5db
      Noise Margin 4.7db 11.0db

      Decided I'd try the test socket, which had never previously made any difference -

      Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
      WAN PPPoA 33 41 0 7 16 00:05:15
      LAN 0 0 0 0 0 00:00:00
      WLAN 2692459 1467522 0 7040929 434534 00:05:05
      ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
      Connection Speed 1472 kbps 768 kbps
      Line Attenuation 61.0db 31.5db
      Noise Margin 16.6db 10.0db

      What a difference! I'll have to badger Sky to get the speed increased further...

      Decided I'd get this sorted once and for all by fitting a filtered faceplate. So, I'm making the thread to confirm that this is all I need to do:

      - Purchase nte-2005 & IDC tool
      - Remove existing nte5 faceplate (2 & 5 currently connected)
      - Fit 2 & 5 onto the filtered faceplate, screw it on and away I go?


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      Re: Fitting filtered faceplate

      Yep, although you can happily connect pin 3 again as the ADSL will be filtered away from it. The TV issue may be helped with a BT 80B RF3.
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      Re: Fitting filtered faceplate

      I have to doubt you are 12K from your exchange, especially with an attenuation of 61dbs. I would guess you are just a bit over 6K. Unless you are on one of the exchanges with a microwave transmitter, which I have read about somewhere.

      With regards your TV, you can check it for REIN by tuning a radio to 612khz in the am/mw band hold it near the TV and if you can hear a buzz or clicking sound and it continues as you move away, you have RF interference. This is a rough way of checking, if you hear nothing it does not mean you have not got it, but if you do you have. If you follow me.

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      Re: Fitting filtered faceplate

      The 12km estimate comes straight from Openreach's circuit line length estimate. Line to the DP is 10km alone apparently.

      I'll try out the radio some time - I remember reading it on Kitz a bit ago. With the faceplate on at the moment, even when the phone rings, the line often drops sync like a high opens fault, but the line tests fine. Seems spot on from the test socket, so I'll order the faceplate tonight.

      I'll fire an update on the thread once the faceplate is fitted and with a bit of luck I'll be able to push to 2048-3072kbps.

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      Re: Fitting filtered faceplate

      The 12km estimate comes straight from Openreach's circuit line length estimate. Line to the DP is 10km alone apparently.
      I think something is wrong with their checker. Have a look at Kitz's line checker, 12k would give an attenuation of 160+dbs, way outside the broadband range, unless you have FTTC or a sub exchange.

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      Re: Fitting filtered faceplate

      Received the filtered faceplate and IDC tool today. Cheers, Run-it-direct, for the quick delivery.

      For the first time actually fiddling with internal wiring, it wasn't difficult at all. Disconnected 2 & 5 from the nte5 faceplate, but had also some blue/green wiring twisted everywhere that wasn't connected to anything. Took a while to get that untangled and then fitted 2, 3 & 5 onto the NTE2005 and tidied things up.

      Unplugged the filters from socket(s) and fired the dsl cable into the faceplate. Line synced up quicker than usual and stats looked great. Picked up the handset and had a dial tone from the extension socket and could make calls no problems. Then I called the house phone and despite there being a dial tone present and outgoing calls being fine, I couldn't actually hear the phone ring. After minutes of scratching my head, knowing I had wired it correctly, I then found out I had a digit wrong when dialling the landline... Idiot.

      Stats at the moment (uncapped it slightly a few days ago):

      ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
      Connection Speed 1856 kbps 864 kbps
      Line Attenuation 61.0db 31.5db
      Noise Margin 11.8db 7.0db

      I'll update this thread tonight once it's fully uncapped.

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      Re: Fitting filtered faceplate

      Good stuff, heart sinking moment when the wrong number was dialled eh?!
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      Re: Fitting filtered faceplate

      Yeah, I was well confused ha! Well, popped into work on the way home tonight and all good:

      ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
      Connection Speed 2720 kbps 896 kbps
      Line Attenuation 61.0db 31.5db
      Noise Margin 7.2db 8.0db

      Could have gotten this type of speed yonks ago, presumably, but I've never bothered my back side. Ironic given I advise quite a few people on internal wiring issues, but there you have it. Cheers, guys.

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      Re: Fitting filtered faceplate

      Just been streaming constantly to try and rack up any possible errors, but looks spot on after 15 minutes with only 1 CRC so far. Pretty nice for a long, long line with delays at 8.

      Code:
      ADSL Stats
      ==========
      
      xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
      Status: Showtime
      Retrain Reason:	0
      Max:	Upstream rate = 1056 Kbps, Downstream rate = 3072 Kbps
      Channel:	INTR, Upstream rate = 896 Kbps, Downstream rate = 2720 Kbps
      
      Link Power State:	L0
      Mode:			G.DMT 
      TPS-TC:			ATM Mode
      Trellis:		ON
      Line Status:		No Defect
      Training Status:	Showtime
      		Down		Up
      SNR (dB):	 6.5		 8.0
      Attn(dB):	 61.0		 31.5
      Pwr(dBm):	 17.1		 12.5
      			G.dmt framing
      K:		86(0)		29
      R:		16		16
      S:		2		8
      D:		16		4
      			Counters
      SF:		53512		53498
      SFErr:		1		0
      RS:		1819391		454733
      RSCorr:		749498		0
      RSUnCorr:	5		0
      
      HEC:		0		0
      OCD:		0		0
      LCD:		0		0
      Total Cells:	5835885		0
      Data Cells:	1626851		0
      Drop Cells:	0
      Bit Errors:	0		0
      
      ES:		1		0
      SES:		0		0
      UAS:		18		18
      AS:		910
      
      INP:		1.36		1.03
      PER:		1.75		1.75
      delay:		8.00		8.00
      OR:		32.00		32.00
      
      Bitswap:	246		0
      
      Total time = 15 min 35 sec
      FEC:		749498		0
      CRC:		1		0
      ES:		1		0
      SES:		0		0
      UAS:		18		18
      LOS:		0		0
      LOF:		0		0
      Latest 15 minutes time = 35 sec
      FEC:		30955		0
      CRC:		0		0
      ES:		0		0
      SES:		0		0
      UAS:		0		0
      LOS:		0		0
      LOF:		0		0
      Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
      FEC:		718543		0
      CRC:		1		0
      ES:		1		0
      SES:		0		0
      UAS:		18		18
      LOS:		0		0
      LOF:		0		0
      Latest 1 day time = 15 min 35 sec
      FEC:		749498		0
      CRC:		1		0
      ES:		1		0
      SES:		0		0
      UAS:		18		18
      LOS:		0		0
      LOF:		0		0
      Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
      FEC:		0		0
      CRC:		0		0
      ES:		0		0
      SES:		0		0
      UAS:		0		0
      LOS:		0		0
      LOF:		0		0
      Since Link time = 15 min 9 sec
      FEC:		749498		0
      CRC:		1		0
      ES:		1		0
      SES:		0		0
      UAS:		0		0
      LOS:		0		0
      LOF:		0		0

     

     

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