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    BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC?

    This is a discussion on BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC? within the Cabling and faceplate help forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; Shouldn't there be a twisted pair from the pole to the NTE5 master socket? Mine isn't, its just 4 core ...

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      Re: BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC?

      Shouldn't there be a twisted pair from the pole to the NTE5 master socket? Mine isn't, its just 4 core (I think) untwisted with wire strengtheners of which only white and orange are used. To make matters even worse, the cable from my pole to the nearest cabinet two streets away is Aluminium. I have complained about this even to Ofcom but got nowhere. I would get @ 3mb if the wiring in the ground was copper but instead I get 1750kbps. Local loop cabling in this country is rubbish.


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      Re: BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC?

      The cable which you describe is twisted pair. How do you know that the run from the pole to cab is aluminium?

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      Re: BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC?

      I know about lack of a twisted pair and the the aluminium cable because a BT engineer told me whilst on a call out to my house. I have also had to move the master socket due to decorating so I can confirm that As for the aluminium cable, I can see it running up the pole. It comes out of the ground and up to the box on the top of the pole and it is unshielded. It is also a larger gauge than the shielded copper cables that run up other poles. The engineer also told me where the nearest cab for my pole was. No doubt we are both in trouble with the big bad monopoly.

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      Re: BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC?

      well you are wrong, the drop cable you describe is twisted pair. And you cannot tell aluminium cored cable just by looking, all you will see is the outer sheath.

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      Re: BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC?

      Also note that you can get tinned copper wire so just because the cable is not copper coloured (internal wire not the outer sheaf!) does not mean it is aluminium!
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      Re: BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC?

      The drop cable is white orange green and black and like I said,the engineer said it wasn't a twisted pair and I have seen about 6 inches of the cable without the shield and its NOT twisted. The cable up the pole IS Aluminium END OF.

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      Re: BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC?

      CW1308 is loose twist(and can be very loose), 6 inches woudln't be enough to tell if it was twisted pair or not IMO, i still don't understand how you know it is alumunum cable just by looking at it?
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      Re: BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC?

      @ Maturecheese.
      Well have it your own way. However the cable is twisted pair, and you cannot tell what a cable is made of by just looking. So There.

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      Re: BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC?

      No you cant tell just by looking at it but I'm 44 not 14 so I have a good idea what ally looks like and the fact that the Gauge of the cable is nearly twice that of the sheathed copper cables is a bit of a giveaway. Also its either copper or aluminium in answer to Run it direct, if it was copper the gauge of the cable would be thinner. This is getting tedious, the cable network is pretty crap, just like a lot of the BT engineers.
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      Re: BT Master NTE5- Whats Better- Scewtype or IDC?

      Cause it could be steel, That was used quite a lot at one time.
      It's a shame you have such a dim view of BT/Openreach and their staff. You never know you might want some help oneday.

     

     
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