Need help....can anyone explain???

[Brian69]

O.k Cable = XR66W
Socket = FT49D
Insertion tool = FT51F

[Hopeful]

If I hardwire as suggested will the ring line be carried through to where I wish to place the router now (2nd Floor)? As I stated earlier in this thread I have a fax/printer networked through my router, so at the other end of the 15m extension presently is a filter to split the signal.

[Brian69]

No you need not connect the ring line if you have a filter on the other end, Just use the blue pair to connect 2 and 5 from the master faceplate to the extension

[Hopeful]

So My fax will still work if attached to the filter?

[Brian69]

Yes. At the moment you have an extension from the master to wherever, with a filter pluged into it. You would like to remove the ring wire, but extension leads contain wires which are too small to work with IDC connectors on the faceplate, so I have suggested that you wire an extension socket and leave out the ring line. As the filter will produce the ring sig, you do not need it.

[Hopeful]

Hi Ian,

I opened the master socket there are presently no wires attached to terminals 2-5. There are only 2 wires coming from outside the house into the back of the master socket, a white one attached to 'A' and a orange one attached to 'B'.

Hopeful

I re-read over the answers from everyone (very grateful for all replies) but I now think I may have a wiring problem

The BT socket on the ground floor has only 2 connections '2' green/white stripes and '5' white/green stripes. Then there is a BT extension plugged into this and on the other end on the 1st floor a BT extension socket (fitted by DH) with terminals '2' blue/white stripes, '3' orange/white stripes, '4' white/orange stripes, '5' white/blue stripes.

The master socket is wired as above in quote.

If certain wires carry the BB and/or ringing signal would I then not have a problem if only part/either or both signals are wired correctly in the sockets.
The socket on the ground floor and the socket on the 2nd floor were both done by BT when I moved in but I DID NOT have BB at the time only dial up, so would this have influenced the way they wired it back then???

Any engineers out there to shed some light on this?

Would be very grateful for any feedback

[eyemdee]

^^^ The orange/white pair to terminals 3 & 4 on the first floor can be disconnected but they aren't actually doing anything if the ground floor socket is not a master. There is no ring signal generated by an extension socket, only the master.

Brian69's solution is the best way forward - a hard wired extension from the master faceplate connected to only terminals 2 & 5 using good quality cable.

[Brian69]

Now we are getting somewhere.
Your wiring should be like this.
(1) Starting at the master the incoming line sounds correct (white to A and orange to B).
(2) You say that there is an extension socket, but no wires on the faceplate of the master, so this extension must be connected to the incoming line at some other point.
You need to get your wiring re-done so that all extensions are wired from the faceplate of the master.
Your system should be wired so that if you remove the faceplate from the master, then all other sockets are disconnected.

[Hopeful]

picture of bt socket.doc

click the link above to see a picture showing the cabling from the street into my house. Is this right??

[eyemdee]

Exactly as Brian69 described. The extension is wired from the outside junction box which is not how it would be done today. As the ring wire is not wired back to the master socket then it is probably OK as it is, but ideally it would be better wired from the master faceplate so it can be disconnected for testing etc.