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      Some information and advice

      If you would be so kind ladies and gents...

      I've finally got a connection (long story, won't bother) which has been stable for a few days now but I'm getting between 5-6 Mb downloads (from tests).

      I'm on Max.

      I used mognuts utility thingie and it said that my router was in G.DMT mode (although whenever I try it since then I get a different cfg file that doesn't have the mode - the same as if I save the cfg from the router).

      A tier 2... person... told me that my line was only capable of 8mb max (I'd like to know why though).

      Various websites tell me my exchange is Norton, 2.3 - 2.4 km away (LLU enabled).

      So, I'm just wondering what the router stats tell you (I more or less know what they mean, but not what they mean, if you see what I mean... - not an area I've had any experience in, most Durham schools, that I support, use wireless - i.e. 20 foot aerials on the roof wireless - the rest use fibre...)

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      System Up Time 114:20:37
      Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
      WAN PPPoA 26395670 22975172 0 9513 9006 114:19:32
      LAN 10M/100M 23204956 26382523 0 10133 457 114:20:35
      WLAN 11M/54M/108M 316652 16124 0 92 1 114:20:25

      ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
      Connection Speed 7040 kbps 768 kbps
      Line Attenuation 44.0 db 25.5 db
      Noise Margin 9.1 db 14.0 db

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      As for advice, should I bother pursuing this? I'm reasonably happy to leave the speed (for now at least) if its going to be more stable and realible than get a speed boost but on a flaky connection. An extra 5 for unlimited downloads is worth it I think, for that piece of mind if I ever do need it. Although part of me is a bit annoyed that I can't get what I'm paying for (i.e. "up to 16" rather than "up to 8", yes, 6 is "up to 16" but for me, max should be between 8 and 16, but I digress).

      Thanks in advance.

      Edit: mognuts is working again, so I have my latest detailed stats if you want them
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      Re: Some information and advice

      Hi Steve

      Sky/Easynet cap on GDMT for stability reasons only, maybe the line failed a test etc, this we do not know the exact test etc.

      As for should you get any faster I cannot help, Saturday or Fibre are pretty much clued up on stats and so should advise once they see this thread.

      In the meantime if you try the test socket behind the master socket, see if your stats improve and repost them here

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      Re: Some information and advice

      Yeah cheers NR, I'll wait until the wife goes out to try the test socket (she wouldn't understand )

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      Re: Some information and advice

      Quote Originally Posted by stevelaw View Post
      should I bother pursuing this?[/I]
      Pursue it with Sky? No, that would be a waste of time.

      Your attenuation at 44db limits your connection to a maximum of ~9000kbps on ADSL2+ and not far short of that on Sky's G.DMT. That you are currently only getting 7040kbps is probably easily explained by your noise margin being a bit generous and a little bit of noise on your line. As you've been advised, connecting to your test socket will show the maximum your line is capable of.

      If you currently have a stable and reliable connection at ~7000kbps, I'd say that's a perfectly respectable result.

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      Re: Some information and advice

      Oh 7M would be acceptable but in practice I'm getting 5-6 (more 5 than 6). That's not quite as respectable, although still not bad I'll admit. I'll try the test socket later tonight.

      But thanks.

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      Re: Some information and advice

      You're confusing connection speed with download speed. You are connecting (according to your stats) at 7040kbps.

      Download speed will only ever be about 85% of connection speed due to transmission overheads.

      85% of 7040 is ~5950kbps so that's your target download speed.

      If you're not getting this and you are on a wired connection and are using a good speedtest site like this one, then I'd suggest a quick read of the second sticky in my signature at the bottom of this post.

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      Re: Some information and advice

      Quote Originally Posted by Saturday View Post
      You're confusing connection speed with download speed. You are connecting (according to your stats) at 7040kbps.
      That's what I meant by "in practice" but I accept I may have confused you with what I meant, sorry

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      Re: Some information and advice

      Okay I tried the master/test socket (note I had to plug the filter in as I only have RJ11 to RJ11 cables not a RJ11 to BT - but I unplugged everything from the phone side of the filter).

      And... absolutely no difference. Guess that's good news I suppose...

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      Re: Some information and advice

      Yes that rules out your internal wiring, so the sync speed you have recorded on here is about the best you are going to get.
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      Re: Some information and advice

      The best a man can get ... well thanks folks. Maybe I can pursuade the wife to move closer to the exchange?

      I did buy her a Valentine card *sheesh*

     

     

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