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    Is hacking router worth it?!?

    This is a discussion on Is hacking router worth it?!? within the Asking for help forums, part of the Broadband Technical Help category; Hi there. Just got the Sky Max Package with following statistics: ADSL Link Downstream Upstream Connection Speed 3776 kbps 768 ...

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      Is hacking router worth it?!?

      Hi there.

      Just got the Sky Max Package with following statistics:

      ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
      Connection Speed 3776 kbps 768 kbps
      Line Attenuation 56.0 db 31.5 db
      Noise Margin 8.3 db 14.0 db



      Does this seem alright to you lot for a 16mb max connection?

      Someone mentioned I might be able to improve the download speed by using my own router firmware on the netgear router. Personally I have no loss and no freezes. Will default netgear firmware improve performance?

      Thanks


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      Re: Is hacking router worth it?!?

      You are unlikely to improve the d/l speed with other firmware. Apart from that, if the flashing process goes wrong, your router will be unusable and quite expensive to replace. With your attenuation of 56, your speed is good, especially if it is stable.

      Take some time to browse the forum, there are loads of tips on how to improve your connection. Look at THIS Section in particular.

      The main thing to remember is that with your attenuation, you will never get anywhere near 16mbps.

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      Re: Is hacking router worth it?!?

      Ye I never expected to get near 16mbps.

      On another note this morning my speed was down to 150kbps using speedtest!!!!!! On restarting the router and reconnecting it went back up and even exceeded 3mbps.....

      Any ideas on that one?

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      Re: Is hacking router worth it?!?

      Your line is probably generating errors, as these build up, your speed will go down, rebooting the router temporary reduces the errors and allows your speed to rise.

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      Re: Is hacking router worth it?!?

      You need to extract your detailed stats and post them here using the proceedure below. They may show some problems.

      Go to the utility web site: Sky Netgear DG834GT utility version 0.4
      Click the “Get” detailed modem stats button and click “OK”.
      Enter the router login user name and password.
      At the next screen, click the back button on your browser.
      Click the “Download” netgear.cfg button.
      What you do next depends on your operating system. On Windows XP, click the “Save” button to save the file to your hard disk. (If you click “Open”, you may find that the file association is one that doesn’t handle carriage returns the same way as the router, hence the reason for saying “Save”.)
      Open the file in WordPad (not notepad).

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      Re: Is hacking router worth it?!?

      /usr/sbin/adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
      Status: Showtime Channel: INTR, Upstream rate = 768 Kbps, Downstream rate = 3456 Kbps
      Link Power State: L0
      Mode: G.DMT
      Channel: Interleave
      Trellis: ON
      Line Status: No Defect
      Training Status: Showtime
      Down Up
      SNR (dB): 8.1 13.0
      Attn(dB): 56.0 31.5
      Pwr(dBm): 17.3 9.9
      Max(Kbps): 3776 1184
      Rate (Kbps): 3456 768
      G.dmt framing
      K: 109(0) 25
      R: 16 16
      S: 2 8
      D: 64 8
      ADSL2 framing
      MSGc: 1 1
      B: 109 25
      M: 2 8
      T: 1 1
      R: 16 16
      S: 2.1454 8.6153
      L: 880 208
      D: 64 8
      Counters
      SF: 3182646 3182644
      SFErr: 6338 2
      RS: 108209974 27052474
      RSCorr: 260759 796
      RSUnCorr: 172563 0

      HEC: 2995 4
      OCD: 333 2
      LCD: 10 0
      Total Cells: 440472755 0
      Data Cells: 247438 0
      Drop Cells: 0
      Bit Errors: 0 0

      ES: 802 0
      SES: 579 0
      UAS: 44 0
      Total time = 15 hours 3 min 58 sec
      SF = 3186819
      CRC = 6526
      LOS = 3037
      LOF = 0
      ES = 802
      Latest 1 day time = 15 hours 3 min 58 sec
      SF = 3186819
      CRC = 6526
      LOS = 3037
      LOF = 0
      ES = 802
      Latest 15 minutes time = 3 min 58 sec
      SF = 13997
      CRC = 1
      LOS = 1
      LOF = 0
      ES = 2
      Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
      SF = 52931
      CRC = 17
      LOS = 3
      LOF = 0
      ES = 2
      Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
      SF = 0
      CRC = 0
      LOS = 0
      LOF = 0
      ES = 0
      15 minutes interval [-30 min to -15 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
      SF = 52930
      CRC = 0
      LOS = 1
      LOF = 0
      ES = 1
      15 minutes interval [-45 min to -30 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
      SF = 52931
      CRC = 0
      LOS = 7
      LOF = 0
      ES = 6
      15 minutes interval [-60 min to -45 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
      SF = 52989
      CRC = 3
      LOS = 6
      LOF = 0
      ES = 5

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      Re: Is hacking router worth it?!?

      You have at some point during that 15 hours gereated a large amount of CRC errors. Have you tried the test socket behind the face plate of the BT master socket? Also your attenuation indicates you are some distance form the exchange?

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      Re: Is hacking router worth it?!?

      I'm 2.5km from the exchange ye

      As for the CRC errors and such, I haven't tried the test socket? Dont know how to

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      Re: Is hacking router worth it?!?

      You need to find the BT master socket which is normally the first one as the BT line comes in the house, if it is less than 10/15 years old it will be an NTE5 which looks like the pic below, if you undo the 2 screws on the front the bottom half of the front should pull off and you will find a teast socket behind there, by pulling the front of the socket off it disconnects any extension wiring and the test socket connects you straight onto the BT line, therefore isolating the fault to either your internal wiring or the BT line.
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