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    Extending range with a BiPAC 7800N

    This is a discussion on Extending range with a BiPAC 7800N within the Wireless / Adapters forums, part of the Sky Broadband help category; Hi, I have the Sky SR101 router connected to my master socket, and all is well. Until, I move into ...

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      Extending range with a BiPAC 7800N

      Hi,
      I have the Sky SR101 router connected to my master socket, and all is well. Until, I move into another room in the house.
      I have a Billion BiPAC 7800N which I used before I went over to Sky Broadband Unlimited.
      I have been trying to use the 7800N as an AP in the other room, but I cannot get it to connect.
      Before I go mad, is it possible to do this, or is the 7800N not compatible ?
      Any help on settings would be very welcome.
      I also have a pair of 500Mb powerline adapters available if this will help out in my situation.
      Regards,


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      Re: Extending range with a BiPAC 7800N

      I am not familiar with the 7800n settings, but I don't think you can use it as a wireless extender. Your simplest way is to use your Homeplugs to connect it by ethernet. Use this thread for guidance.
      How to connect two Routers together

      TomD


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      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      Use this thread for guidance.
      How to connect two Routers together
      Thank you for your quick response - I wasn't expecting a reply THAT quick !
      Anyway, I read the .pdf file, and 1 hour later - Hey Presto! it all seems to work fine, and stable.
      Thanks again.
      Paul

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      Re: Extending range with a BiPAC 7800N

      I spoke too soon !
      The Powerline Adaptors are great, and doing their job nicely.
      The SR101 is giving WiFi (although not particularly strong) on channel 13.
      The BiPAC 7800N is working fine for cabled connections.
      The WiFi on channel 8 is present and strong, but nothing seems to connect to it.
      InSSIDer shows both channels are up.
      The routers both have the same SSID and password. Both are set to WPA/WPA2-PSK.
      My smartphone (and laptop) will only connect to the SR101, if I go into the other room (with the BiPAC 7800N), the phone switches to 3g, and the Wifi icon dissapears. If I restart the phone in the room with the BiPAC 7800N, it still doesn't connect to WiFi.

      Any ideas? Anyone ?

      Regards,
      Paul

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      Re: Extending range with a BiPAC 7800N

      The routers both have the same SSID and password. Both are set to WPA/WPA2-PSK.
      I know it is recommended that you use the same SSID on both routers to enable 'roaming', but this does not always work too well. The device may still be looking for the original router. Try changing the SSID of one of the routers to something different and see if that helps. You may have to reconnect manually when you change rooms, but that is better than no connection at all.

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      Re: Extending range with a BiPAC 7800N

      That was a good move.
      I renamed the 7800N, but left everything else as was.
      Cabled clients work fine.
      Wireless clients work fine. - Hurrah! It lives!
      Tried going back to the original name again - phone tries to connect, authenticates, gets IP address, connected, then immediately fails, and then keeps going round in circles until I get nearer the SR101, when it connects and stays connected.
      I've tried with uPnP enabled and disabled, but it makes no difference.
      I've tried with DHCP Server in Disabled and DHCP Relay (from SR101) modes, but it makes no difference.
      I'm not too sure what to have the following on:
      WPS Service (Enable - Disable)
      WPS State (Configured - Unconfigured)
      WMM (Enable - Disable)
      Wireless Multicast Forwarding (Enable - Disable)
      WDS Service (Enable - Disable)
      AES Key (?)
      Peer WDS MAC Address (?)
      Also, is the "Host Name" important ?

      Regards,
      Paul

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      Re: Extending range with a BiPAC 7800N

      This is how I would set it.

      WPS Service (Enable - Disable)
      WPS State (Configured - Unconfigured)
      WMM (Enable - Disable)
      Wireless Multicast Forwarding (Enable - Disable)
      WDS Service (Enable - Disable)
      AES Key (?) Network key
      Peer WDS MAC Address (?) not required
      Also, is the "Host Name" important ? not required

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      Re: Extending range with a BiPAC 7800N

      Thanks.
      I have tried that configuration, and it still doesn't work.
      I really don't understand why a laptop will connect to the 7800N when it has a different name, but won't/can't when the 7800N name is the same as the SR101.
      When the names are different, and the laptop is connected to the 7800N, the laptop manages to get an IP address from the SR101. So, the configuration must be pretty much OK.
      I have tried them on differing channels (ie. 1 & 6, or 13 & 7, etc.), but that makes no difference either.
      Any other suggestions gratefully accepted !
      Regards,
      Paul

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      Re: Extending range with a BiPAC 7800N

      Some are able to get the roaming function working properly when using the same SSID, but others are not. I can only geuss it is a failing on the part of the adapter. Make sure you are running the latest drivers for the adapter. Obtain these from the manufacturers site, not Windows. Another thing to check is that you are using the Windows wireless manager, not the one supplied with the router.

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      Note - When downloading always select the Custom install or you will end up with stuff you don't want.





     

     

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