Your forum username:
Do you already have an account?
Forgot your password?
  • Log in or Sign up


    Welcome to Sky User - The Unofficial Support Forum for everything Sky! - Proudly helping over 60k members.


    Advertisement

    Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
    Results 1 to 10 of 11

    FTTC router

    This is a discussion on FTTC router within the Technical discussion forums, part of the Broadband Technical Help category; Isn't the router for skys FTTC (Fibre) service the same as the current DSL router. (Sagem 2504n) If so seems ...

    1. #1
      dragon2611's Avatar
      dragon2611 is offline Sky User Member
      Exchange:
      Broadband ISP: Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro
      Router: Non Sky Router
      Sky TV: Sky+HD box
      Join Date
      Jan 2012
      Posts
      852
      Thanks
      5
      Thanked 76 Times in 67 Posts

      FTTC router

      Isn't the router for skys FTTC (Fibre) service the same as the current DSL router. (Sagem 2504n)

      If so seems a bit silly they're sending out a new router to use with the FTTC connection when surely they could just re-flash the firmware on my existing box.


    2. Advertisement
    3. #2
      Scubbie's Avatar
      Scubbie is offline Sky User Moderator
      Exchange: 02392
      Broadband ISP: Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro
      Router: Sky Hub SR101
      Sky TV: Sky+HD box
      Join Date
      Mar 2010
      Location
      Near Portsmouth
      Posts
      16,812
      Thanks
      446
      Thanked 1,506 Times in 1,443 Posts

      Re: FTTC router

      Quote Originally Posted by dragon2611 View Post
      Isn't the router for skys FTTC (Fibre) service the same as the current DSL router. (Sagem 2504n)

      If so seems a bit silly they're sending out a new router to use with the FTTC connection when surely they could just re-flash the firmware on my existing box.
      They are physically identical but they have different firmwares.

      The packaging is also different. With the ADSL only version you get a pair of microfilters and a single Ethernet cable. With the Fibre version you get no microfilters but you do get a pair of Ethernet cables.

      Currently their system automatically adds a router when you order Fibre.

      Personally I agree that it would make sense to just force a change in the firmware as the version sent out for fibre actually works on both Fibre and ADSL. This may be something which Sky will change in the future.

      Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro: Connected at 80,000 kbps / 20,000 kbps
      Previous ADSL2+ Speed 19999 kbps 1153 kbps, Line Attenuation 17.5 db 6.9 db, Noise Margin 7.5 dB 8.7 dB
      Speedtest: 17.15MB/s 0.97Mb/s Ping 31 ms

    4. #3
      dragon2611's Avatar
      dragon2611 is offline Sky User Member
      Exchange:
      Broadband ISP: Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro
      Router: Non Sky Router
      Sky TV: Sky+HD box
      Join Date
      Jan 2012
      Posts
      852
      Thanks
      5
      Thanked 76 Times in 67 Posts

      Re: FTTC router

      Anyway to get them into a recovery/flashing mode?

      Also does anyone have a Dump of the FTTC firmware...?

      Once the FTTC goes live the DSL one is pretty much redundant so really don't care if I brick it.

    5. #4
      Scubbie's Avatar
      Scubbie is offline Sky User Moderator
      Exchange: 02392
      Broadband ISP: Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro
      Router: Sky Hub SR101
      Sky TV: Sky+HD box
      Join Date
      Mar 2010
      Location
      Near Portsmouth
      Posts
      16,812
      Thanks
      446
      Thanked 1,506 Times in 1,443 Posts

      Re: FTTC router

      Currently there are no custom firmwares available for the Sagem 2504N.

      The best advice would be to either sell it or piggyback it to your Fibre router. To get the setting to take though you will need to connect it to someone's ADSL Internet first. By piggybacking it you could cover any areas in your home that currently don't have any WiFi signal.

      Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro: Connected at 80,000 kbps / 20,000 kbps
      Previous ADSL2+ Speed 19999 kbps 1153 kbps, Line Attenuation 17.5 db 6.9 db, Noise Margin 7.5 dB 8.7 dB
      Speedtest: 17.15MB/s 0.97Mb/s Ping 31 ms

    6. The Following User Says Thank You to Scubbie For This Useful Post:

      Restorer (30-06-12)

    7. #5
      dragon2611's Avatar
      dragon2611 is offline Sky User Member
      Exchange:
      Broadband ISP: Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro
      Router: Non Sky Router
      Sky TV: Sky+HD box
      Join Date
      Jan 2012
      Posts
      852
      Thanks
      5
      Thanked 76 Times in 67 Posts

      Re: FTTC router

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Currently there are no custom firmwares available for the Sagem 2504N.

      The best advice would be to either sell it or piggyback it to your Fibre router. To get the setting to take though you will need to connect it to someone's ADSL Internet first. By piggybacking it you could cover any areas in your home that currently don't have any WiFi signal.
      It would be largely unsuitable for my network.

      I currently run WPA2-Enterprise on my Primary SSID using a Zeroshell (freeradius) as the backend authentication server.

      A bit overkill for home admittedly but I wanted to see if I could do it, also it did stop my housemates giving out the PSK.

      I really must try setting up Freeradius on a linux box sometime so I can learn the config.

    8. #6
      Restorer's Avatar
      Restorer is offline Sky User Member
      Exchange:
      Broadband ISP: Sky Fibre Unlimited
      Router: Sagem F@ST 2504n
      Sky TV: Sky+ HD
      Join Date
      Sep 2006
      Posts
      333
      Thanks
      26
      Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

      Re: FTTC router

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Currently there are no custom firmwares available for the Sagem 2504N.

      The best advice would be to either sell it or piggyback it to your Fibre router. To get the setting to take though you will need to connect it to someone's ADSL Internet first. By piggybacking it you could cover any areas in your home that currently don't have any WiFi signal.
      Could do with a stronger wifi signal at the back of the house. Would doing this piggybacking be the answer? Is there a guide somewhere? My non-fibre 2504N was only used for a few weeks so I would be nice to find a role for it!

    9. #7
      Isitme's Avatar
      Isitme is offline Sky User Moderator
      Exchange: Bannockburn
      Broadband ISP: Sky Broadband Unlimited
      Router: Sky Hub SR101
      Sky TV: Sky+ HD
      Join Date
      Dec 2006
      Location
      Central Scotland
      Posts
      29,352
      Thanks
      39
      Thanked 1,207 Times in 1,190 Posts

      Re: FTTC router

      You would need to connect them by ethernet or homeplug, the instructions can be found in Scubbie's guide.-
      How to connect two Routers together

      There is a method of connecting the older Sagems by wireless, but I don't know if it will work with the new ones.

    10. #8
      Scubbie's Avatar
      Scubbie is offline Sky User Moderator
      Exchange: 02392
      Broadband ISP: Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro
      Router: Sky Hub SR101
      Sky TV: Sky+HD box
      Join Date
      Mar 2010
      Location
      Near Portsmouth
      Posts
      16,812
      Thanks
      446
      Thanked 1,506 Times in 1,443 Posts

      Re: FTTC router

      The link above does work, but members have found that the Sagem 2504N needs to be connected to the Internet in order to retain any customised settings.

      Since you have Fibre now I would suggest that you see if you can take the router around a friend's home and connect it to their broadband. I don't know if you have to have it connected to a Sky connection or if any will do.

      Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro: Connected at 80,000 kbps / 20,000 kbps
      Previous ADSL2+ Speed 19999 kbps 1153 kbps, Line Attenuation 17.5 db 6.9 db, Noise Margin 7.5 dB 8.7 dB
      Speedtest: 17.15MB/s 0.97Mb/s Ping 31 ms

    11. #9
      Damo82's Avatar
      Damo82 is offline Sky User Member
      Exchange:
      Broadband ISP: Sky Fibre Unlimited
      Router: Non Sky Router
      Sky TV: HD+ Litmited Ed
      Join Date
      Dec 2009
      Posts
      197
      Thanks
      9
      Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts

      Re: FTTC router

      you could always go the whole way and only have one router and router that supports DD WRT will run with sky

    12. #10
      dragon2611's Avatar
      dragon2611 is offline Sky User Member
      Exchange:
      Broadband ISP: Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro
      Router: Non Sky Router
      Sky TV: Sky+HD box
      Join Date
      Jan 2012
      Posts
      852
      Thanks
      5
      Thanked 76 Times in 67 Posts

      Re: FTTC router

      I'll probably end up having my existing Router doing the routing and buy something else for a dual band AP.

      I run an Alix 2D3 with Mikrotik's RouterOS x86 on at the moment, I do also have an RB751 but I found it lacked the CPU horsepower to manage everything i wanted it to do.

      RouterOS can be buggy at times and has a very steep learning curve, but It offers a feature set I've not been able to find in anything that's available in a similar price range.

     

     
    Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

    Tags for this Thread

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •  
    SkyUser - Copyright © 2006-2012. SatDish and NewsreadeR | SkyUser is in no way affiliated with Sky Broadband / BSkyB
    RIPA NOTICE: NO CONSENT IS GIVEN FOR INTERCEPTION OF PAGE TRANSMISSION | SEO by vBSEO