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    Central Heating Pump Suppressors?

    This is a discussion on Central Heating Pump Suppressors? within the Technical discussion forums, part of the Broadband Technical Help category; Im a gamer and it makes a large difference in the past i havnt had a problem I have confirmed ...

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      Re: Central Heating Pump Suppressors?

      Im a gamer and it makes a large difference
      in the past i havnt had a problem

      I have confirmed its the central heating by turning the thermostat up and down
      about 20 times which caused 9 errors in a space of a min

      Im just not sure where to go now
      if the thermostat needs suppressing or the pump or both


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      Re: Central Heating Pump Suppressors?

      I powered down the modem today to add a second surge suppressor
      as im not sure if either have rfi

      The first error both up and down is from the initial handshake
      so i had 1 error down and 0 up in 367 mins with the heating off


      Central Heating off all day

      Linkuptime = 0 day 6 hr 7 min 15 sec
      RSCorrectedErrorsDn = 0
      RSUnCorrectedErrorsDn = 2
      RSCorrectedErrorsUp = 0
      RSUnCorrectedErrorsUp = 1

      Central Heating Just powered on

      Linkuptime = 0 day 6 hr 7 min 51 sec
      RSCorrectedErrorsDn = 0
      RSUnCorrectedErrorsDn = 4
      RSCorrectedErrorsUp = 0
      RSUnCorrectedErrorsUp = 10

      this 100% confirms its the central heating system somewhere

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      Re: Central Heating Pump Suppressors?

      It very much sounds like you need to get someone in to service your central heating. It could well be a sign that something electrical is on it's way out. Hopefully there will be an electrical burning or something like that emanating from a motor, making the task a little easier.

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      Re: Central Heating Pump Suppressors?

      Its serviced once a year

      The whole thing is a bag of junk
      its a Potterton Envoy

      It breaks down every single year
      and every single year they have to replace the following

      New PCB once a year 250
      New Ignitor once a year 45

      It was serviced just last week with a new pcb

      The problem being though is the council wont replace it
      they would rather pay out 300 a year than 600 for a new one
      and i cant see them caring about rfi problems with it

      The guy who fixed it last week said there was a meeting about these boilers
      and they said they should all be replaced but the council just ignored them

      in the 11 years i have lived here it has had atleast 9 pcb's and 7 or 8 ignitors

      in the past it didnt bother me if they want to waste money
      but now that i have noticed its affecting my adsl it has to be sorted asap

      Im going to have to suppress it myself
      but im finding info sparse on the subject

      Linkuptime = 0 day 7 hr 2 min 43 sec
      RSCorrectedErrorsDn = 0
      RSUnCorrectedErrorsDn = 14
      RSCorrectedErrorsUp = 0
      RSUnCorrectedErrorsUp = 11
      Last edited by Shonk; 01-12-11 at 08:19 PM.

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      Re: Central Heating Pump Suppressors?

      I have ordered one of these
      all the av freaks love it
      so its worth a shot for an easy fix

      if it doesnt work i will have to do it at the point of the problem

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      I have just turned off the central heating
      and its at

      Linkuptime = 0 day 7 hr 35 min 55 sec
      RSCorrectedErrorsDn = 0
      RSUnCorrectedErrorsDn = 23
      RSCorrectedErrorsUp = 0
      RSUnCorrectedErrorsUp = 11
      Last edited by Shonk; 01-12-11 at 08:40 PM.

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      Re: Central Heating Pump Suppressors?

      Quote Originally Posted by Shonk View Post
      My boiler has a pilot
      Are you sure?

      The Potterton Envoy has a hot surface igniter so there shouldn't be a standing pilot.

      The hot surface igniter doesn't use a spark so that isn't causing the problem.

      All the electronics are on the circuit board so any suppression components will have been changed.
      The pump,fan,sensors etc just plug into the circuit board.

      The interference may be coming via the mains but the thermostat or its wiring may be the cause.
      Fitting a suppressor at the thermostat contacts might help.

      Andy
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      Re: Central Heating Pump Suppressors?

      Thanks

      do you have any idea how to wire them if i post photo's of the thermostat wiring
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      Re: Central Heating Pump Suppressors?





      Block 2 - COM Live (Red Wire)
      Block 3 - H - Stat Switched Live (Yellow wire)
      Block 4 - TL - Timed Live (Brown wire jumpered to block 2)
      Block 5 - N - Neutral (Blue wire)

      I have ordeed

      4 of these
      http://www.maplin.co.uk/contact-suppressor-498

      4 of these
      http://www.maplin.co.uk/transient-suppressor-mov-499

      one of these for the pump but have no idea about them
      http://www.maplin.co.uk/delta-suppression-filter-501
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      Re: Central Heating Pump Suppressors?

      I can't help with the internals of the boiler and you should be wary as it isn't yours.

      Before attempting any of this switch off the power at the main switch.

      You can try fitting one of the contact suppressors between the red and yellow terminals of the thermostat.
      You will need to fit some insulated sleeving over the bare wires between the suppressor and the terminals.

      You can also try fitting one of the transient suppressors between the live and neutral connections of the incoming mains supply to the boiler.
      Again you'll need insulated sleeving.
      There is a pdf on line of the installation manual for your boiler.Google is your friend.
      It shows where the connections are for the incoming supply.

      Please take care -- the shock only kills you once.
      You make these modifications at your own risk.

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      Re: Central Heating Pump Suppressors?

      Thanks

      Im not going to touch inside the boiler

      I ended up using contact 4 instead of 2
      as 2 was a bit crammed with the jumpered wire





      I presumed the heating thermostat would be the same inside but it isnt
      and dont want to go blindly guessing
      do you know which wires i should do on this one?




     

     
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