15% or 25% - You decide

[reddwarfcrew]

With that Sync speed you are aiming for 1023kB/s or 0.9mB/s
Like mentioned these are somethings which could effect your speed

• Try updating your Device drivers e.g. Wireless/LAN
• Try cleaning out your computer using that sticky

Fibre, no one will ever get anywhere near their full sync rate unless you are located directly at the exchange. Best to be realistic and quote the expected speed (ie about 85% of sync) than the theoretical speed as it otherwise can be mis-leading.

[Keiran2K8]

aiming for 1023kB/s

My posts states that we should be aiming to the highest possible in this case 1023kBs!

located directly at the exchange.

Thats why the exchange negotiates a speed which is acceptable due to the attenuation!

[reddwarfcrew]

Sorry Fibre, but telling people that they should be aiming for their sync speed is totally misleading. We could have users spending hours trying to find the extra 15%.

Sorry mate, you may know what really goes on, but the people asking for help might not, so I do think its reasonable to quote an expected speed.

If you do insist on quoting the full speed, then please add a disclaimer.

All you did was divide the sync rate of 8190 in bits by 8 and quoted it in bytes. You might as well of just said 'You should be aiming for 8190 kb/sec'.

[Keiran2K8]

The thing is the overheads will be different on each computer,
Limitations on;
The way the computer takes the speed!
E.g. The overhead could be greater on a e.g. Pentium 1 @ 120Mhz as that isnt designed for a high connection!

Then THAT would be misleading to the user asking where is the 25%?

So the outcome is, We rather aim for the highest possible....

[reddwarfcrew]

But quoting the full sync speed without a disclaimer is just not on.

So based on your response and example, you are happy getting users trying to find the missing 25% when they never will? Anyhow....

[Keiran2K8]

You setting that the OVERHEAD is garunteed 15%! oh no!
So if that particular computer config isnt designed to handle a high speed connection then the overhead will be greater?

So NO-ONE can garuntee the overheads!

I bet I sound like an A-hole! Sorry mate lol

[reddwarfcrew]

I said AROUND 85% (ie 15% overhead), last time I looked AROUND was not GUARANTEED.

Your posting suggests more like 100%.

I believe in my humble opinion that it os far safer to quote a DL of around 85% of the sync rate whereas you believe getting users to aim for 100% of sync rate is reasonable (that is how your original posting would be interpretated).

As I keep saying, if you want to quote 0% overheads, then please add a disclaimer.

quoting 15% overheads is more reasonable than 0% - in my opinion.

Perhaps we need a poll to find out what users are averaging so we can see whether users are closer to your 0% than my 15%?

[Keiran2K8]

oh lol!

Bugger me!

I think il add another disclaimer in the Sig lol! like the current ones!

[LNB]

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works, but;-

A) Stay on topic!

B) One byte of data transferred across a network is the equivalent of 10 bits of data on a disc (owing to overheads).

C) Have seen 70% of sync quoted as max data speed.

D) System spec. is nothing to do with network overheads!

[Keiran2K8]

My answer to this thread!

No-one can garuntee the overhead,
Its not 0% or 15% or 50%!

Its dependant on alot of things,
Computer Config
Technologies (router)

So I appologise if my post was misleading in anyway!
Disclaimer has been added!