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    Sky 12 Hour Clock

    This is a discussion on Sky 12 Hour Clock within the Sky+ forums, part of the Sky & Sky+ TV category; Originally Posted by seawright On the twenty four hour clock there appears to be some confusion as to whether midnight ...

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      Re: Sky 12 Hour Clock

      Quote Originally Posted by seawright View Post
      On the twenty four hour clock there appears to be some confusion as to whether midnight is 24:00 or 00:00
      And with the clock displaying time elapsed one could argue that, for an indeterminably brief moment, either could be both am or pm.
      Or should that be 'both could be either am or pm'

      Or if considering quantum mechanics, maybe both at the same time.
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      Re: Sky 12 Hour Clock

      Marjohn56 says "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

      Well, it is broke since it is fairly universally accepted that the 12 hour clock system can be ambiguous.
      Some 12 hour clock systems use the suffix mn or m for midnight ( eg 12mn ) and nn or n for Noon ( e.g. 12nn ) to clarify matters.
      However, when one only has am and pm available, that clarification is not possibly.

      With a 24 hour clock system 12:00 is slap in the middle of 00:00 to 24:00 and must be noon. No ambiguity at all !

      W.r.t. midnight, for programming timing systems, 24:00 ( Today ) and 00:00 ( Tomorrow ) should be equivalent.
      Unless it is implicit that we are talking about Today, then an Absolute Date or Relative Date ( Yesterday, Tomorrow etc ) always needs to be specified along with the Time

      Lets move out of the dark ages.

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      Re: Sky 12 Hour Clock

      How tall are you PHILSU?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Annie UK View Post
      Is it that difficult to member that 12pm is midday?
      Probably about as difficult as spelling the word 'remember' or 'remembering' to use a spell-checker.

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      Quote Originally Posted by seawright View Post
      Which is right or wrong is immaterial. Everyone will have their own preference. Being given the choice is the crucial thing.

      Lettice is only able to exercise his choice because his devices allow it. Something that (currently) Sky set top boxes fail to provide.
      I totally agree, however i do think that despite the 24hr clock being more logical, seeing as sky chose to pick just one, they did pick the most logical one.
      '9pm' is completely unequivocal after all & therefore adequately serves both parties, whereas for some '21:00' may require a further mental step in order to subtract 12.

      So in the absence of choice, the less logical choice is the most logical choice.

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      Re: Sky 12 Hour Clock

      Quote Originally Posted by gymno View Post
      So in the absence of choice, the less logical choice is the most logical choice.
      Did someone mention quantum mechanics?

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      Re: Sky 12 Hour Clock

      Yeah..I think I follow the logic.
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      Re: Sky 12 Hour Clock

      Haha, just asked cortana on windows 10 and she said it was 8 45pm
      Windows by default has the 24 clock in the task bar, but it would sound odd like us to say its 2045
      What a good girl she is, like her even more
      Siri and google say it correctly as 8 45pm too, but samsung svoice read out what it shows as 2045.

      One thing that does puzzle me though is why any screen size is always in inches, 32 inch tv or 10.1 inch tablet or the new ipad pro is 12.9 inches.
      My samsung galaxy mega 6.3 is called that as its screen is 6.3 inches.
      But we measure the width and depth of the same device by mm, which is understandable as 1/8 inch etc would be pretty awful.
      I was bought up in my junior school days with feet and inches, but at secondary school was taught both and when I started work after uni in the UK, in a large US computer firm in their publishing group I had to go back to feet and inches, publishing was all imperial and still is mostly. Much prefer and always use feet and inches to describe anything.
      It makes life a bit of fun really having it all mixed up.
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      Re: Sky 12 Hour Clock

      Everything in the box will be in Unix time to start, the converted to Y/M/D/H/M/S it's an extra step to then take it to am/pm. It would be really pretty easy to give the option.
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      Re: Sky 12 Hour Clock

      For time stamps on files etc. the time will be represented internally as the number of seconds since 1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC.
      Fine for a computer but useless as far as human readability is concerned.

     

     
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