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    This is a discussion on 4K Receiver within the Sky Rumour Mill forums, part of the Sky news and announcements category; Everything is speculation at the moment. Hopefully we will know more in a fortnights time but one thing is for ...

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      Re: 4K Reciever

      Everything is speculation at the moment. Hopefully we will know more in a fortnights time but one thing is for sure the security of the system is paramount for Sky and any pay TV provider. If their DRM is compromised they would find it very difficult if not impossible to recover.
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      Re: 4K Reciever

      Like everyone else, I haven't seen it (yet). I'm speculating based upon what is already available elsewhere and with a little foresight as to what Sky have been doing recently with other products. The development team have been keeping the lid on things for some time now.

      Sky Go has changed enormously since when it was known as 'Sky Player'. We also now have NowTV too. These products re available as apps for our smart phones, tablets, computers, dongles and TVs (i.e. LG).

      There are a wide range of EPG designs available with different providers. Even the ways that Freeview and Freesat is presented by different TV manufacturers shows just how much things can be presented.

      Whilst I wouldn't be expecting an Xbox One or PS4 level of computing power, I think that it is safe to assume that any new STB would be far more powerful than the latest SkyHD or Sky+ HD STBs.

      Looking at how people can stream videos around their home environment today with computers, NAS drives, dongles and connected TVs, it isn't too difficult to foresee that it is possible to produce something quite different to how we've been watching TV until now.

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      Re: 4K Reciever

      Many I see are saying that along with SES/Astra the fibre lnb connections is what may be used for uhd distribution and/or multiple tuners. Amongst a few other similar ways.
      Not heard much about that lately, remember reading about it at least five or so years back.
      Of course there is also SAT>ip

      Interesting quote from last weeks SES results;
      Karim Michel Sabbagh, President and CEO, commented: “SES has continued to be productive in the third quarter 2015. SES has been first out of the starting gate in the commercial introduction of Ultra HD, building on the milestone of Europe’s first commercial UHD channel, pearl.tv – and adding further agreements in Europe and North America with Sky Deutschland, NASA TV, Fashion One, High 4K and TERN




      Some more background here
      http://informitv.com/2015/11/02/sate...more-flexible/

      The SAT>IP protocol was developed in a joint effort between the companies SES, BSkyB and Craftwork. - See more at: http://www.ses.com/satip#sthash.IpaV1At4.dpuf
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      Re: 4K Reciever

      The 2nd video shows that what I was describing previously isn't too difficult for Sky to achieve.

      As each device would be connected to your home network, you could just as easily stream/download content over the Internet as you could stream it live via the Satellite.
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      Re: 4K Reciever

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      The 2nd video shows that what I was describing previously isn't too difficult for Sky to achieve.
      Yes I recall seeing something similar suggested a while back. If I was starting from scratch today in a new house, that's probably the way I would want to go (subject to the setup and running costs not being too high!)

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      As each device would be connected to your home network, you could just as easily stream/download content over the Internet as you could stream it live via the Satellite.
      That's exactly the model that I am aiming at with my current project.

      I won't go into the details but there are some peculiarities about where the dish is located, where the main TV is situated inside the house and how the cable is routed from the dish to the main TV. Suffice to say it's tricky! And currently the Sky+ box is only single feed. So, whilst the 2nd video shows an interesting and innovative solution, I don't think transformation to that setup would be easily achievable here for a few reasons.

      As Scubbie said, we can already easily stream/download the same content over the Internet (as we could stream live via the Satellite) without making any changes to our current technical infrastructure (in fact, we won't even be using the dish any more once fully up and running).
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      Re: 4K Reciever

      Not strictly related to this thread (although looking forward to a 4K receiver), if Sky want to "free us" it would be great if they could launch an app like BT and Virgin that would enable us to use our mobiles over wifi when abroad and linked to our Sky phone number. BT's works well.

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      Re: 4K Reciever

      I really hope that new STBs will have deals where long-standing customers get a discount. New customers get all the best deals!!

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      Re: 4K Reciever

      Quote Originally Posted by cylon6 View Post
      I really hope that new STBs will have deals where long-standing customers get a discount. New customers get all the best deals!!
      I too hope that Sky will make some enticing offers available to both existing and new customers (they always make them available to new customers don't they!).

      The team behind the new 4K UHD set up have been working for a few years now on this project. I've met a couple of them in the past and they are very capable.

      The only thing that worries me is future development.

      The original Sky+ HD STB (Thomson) has a great reputation for picture quality but we now know that it wasn't so good under the hood. The Thomson model was incapable of supporting the Anytime+ features and new file system, for example, so quickly got left behind as Sky started to add new features to improve how we watch our TV.

      Of course the new 4K system had been developed in-house. Sky now owns the factories that used to belong to Amstrad and some of the development people that worked for Amstrad now work for Sky's development team.

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      Re: 4K Reciever

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Sky now owns the factories that used to belong to Amstrad and some of the development people that worked for Amstrad now work for Sky's development team.
      Took on a friend who worked for Amstrad back in 2007, before Alan Sugar got his 35 million cash from sky.
      He had a great pay off and I managed him in my team on a uk tv enterprise solution.

      Amstrad made many boxes including ones for Sky Italia. Think I had a couple and then Thomson (loved that box) and the drx890.

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      Re: 4K Reciever

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      I too hope that Sky will make some enticing offers available to both existing and new customers (they always make them available to new customers don't they!).

      The team behind the new 4K UHD set up have been working for a few years now on this project. I've met a couple of them in the past and they are very capable.

      The only thing that worries me is future development.

      The original Sky+ HD STB (Thomson) has a great reputation for picture quality but we now know that it wasn't so good under the hood. The Thomson model was incapable of supporting the Anytime+ features and new file system, for example, so quickly got left behind as Sky started to add new features to improve how we watch our TV.

      Of course the new 4K system had been developed in-house. Sky now owns the factories that used to belong to Amstrad and some of the development people that worked for Amstrad now work for Sky's development team.
      I have no doubt that this new STB will have functionality at least as good as the Foxtel iQ3 box, but not all existing Sky customers will go for it at any cost. I'd expect Sky to do what they did with the newer Sky+ boxes for customers that wanted to upgrade. If they don't then that could lose them a lot of goodwill.

      Also they want to do Sky internet/phone deals. I'm not switching from Virgin Media for that, I just want the box. Might lead to some difficulties for those customers not within the complete Sky broadband/phone ecosystem. Had to wait aged for Sky Anytime to be made available to non Sky broadband customers.

      A question for you all. Is 2TB enough in this day and age for a Sky+ box? Wouldn't you need 3TB for potential 4k and extra recordings?

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      Quote Originally Posted by lettice View Post
      Took on a friend who worked for Amstrad back in 2007, before Alan Sugar got his 35 million cash from sky.
      He had a great pay off and I managed him in my team on a uk tv enterprise solution.

      Amstrad made many boxes including ones for Sky Italia. Think I had a couple and then Thomson (loved that box) and the drx890.
      First box I had was the Thomson. Now I have DRX890 which needs replacing as it's not getting all of the Sky upgrades that later boxes are.

     

     
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