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    UK ISP Sky Broadband to Trial 18Mbps Sky Fibre Lite FTTC “Fibre” Product

    This is a discussion on UK ISP Sky Broadband to Trial 18Mbps Sky Fibre Lite FTTC “Fibre” Product within the Sky news and announcements forums, part of the SkyUser Announcements category; But I think that inclusive call packages will become increasingly irrelevant as time goes on, because more and more people ...

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      Re: UK ISP Sky Broadband to Trial 18Mbps Sky Fibre Lite FTTC “Fibre” Product

      But I think that inclusive call packages will become increasingly irrelevant as time goes on, because more and more people (particularly younger people who have grown up with mobiles get older!) will stop using the landline (if they ever did so at all) and use included minutes in their mobile plan. Then there's use of VoIP and video calling like FaceTime, Skype etc that use a data connection (either mobile of fixed line). That's certainly the case here and with our offspring who have now fled the nest and setup their own homes.
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      Re: UK ISP Sky Broadband to Trial 18Mbps Sky Fibre Lite FTTC “Fibre” Product

      Quote Originally Posted by speedyrite View Post
      But I think that inclusive call packages will become increasingly irrelevant as time goes on, because more and more people (particularly younger people who have grown up with mobiles get older!) will stop using the landline (if they ever did so at all) and use included minutes in their mobile plan. Then there's use of VoIP and video calling like FaceTime, Skype etc that use a data connection (either mobile of fixed line). That's certainly the case here and with our offspring who have now fled the nest and setup their own homes.
      Nice to think we are seen as young, in our early 50s and no landline call package here
      Must admit, there is no one I know who uses a landline now to chat in our friends and family circle.
      But a few I know do still have landline call packages and oddly they are all BT users (and they are what I would call older generation 70s/80s, but do use mobiles/skype for general friends/family calls), not sky, ee etc.

      Glad I do not pay the full price for line rental and broadband, thanks sky for a nice 'long term customer' deal last month for another year that kept it reduced considerably across the whole tv/broadband/line rental package.

      Mobile and skype (all payg) does that so much better for us with a lot of home working use with it also.
      Welcomed the move by sky to have the payg package to get rid of the landline phone.
      Our cordless phones have been rotting in landfill somewhere for many months now!

      This 18mbps package sounds interesting for those who just want a cheap uplift form a poor adsl line.
      But will it be free deal or £10 and unlimited like the sky broadband package.
      Think that for many it really just kills off the sky fibre and 25mb cap one (not understood how you can have fibre and a 25mb cap).

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      Re: UK ISP Sky Broadband to Trial 18Mbps Sky Fibre Lite FTTC “Fibre” Product

      I tend to use the landline a lot. I also know when I chat with a couple of friends that we can hear each other more clearly with the landline than with a mobile. Since Sky included mobiles with the last round of changes, it makes a little more sense to use the landline for me too.

      Of course if you've got an all inclusive call package, then a mobile can be a little easier as you're not worrying about the 60 minute restriction. I've occasionally gone over this and that tends to be the only reason I get call charges these days.

      Yes I've got a mobile & Skype. I will use them all at different times.

      Will this 18mb product replace ADSL connections? Well ultimately ADSL & ADSL2+ won't be suitable for the 25mb+ requirement that all broadband needs to be by the end of 2020. So yes ADSL & ADSL2+ will be phased out.

      So no the 18mb package won't be a long-term solution, but it will help those who currently have a poor connection speed to take that step towards a Fibre based connection which is perhaps perceived as too expensive.

      As for the 25GB monthly usage cap, many ISPs, including Sky, have had caps on their respective ADSL packages for years. Sky's Connect product had a limit of 40GB. Their 'free' ADSL2+ product included when someone just wanted a cheap landline had a 5GB cap.

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      Re: UK ISP Sky Broadband to Trial 18Mbps Sky Fibre Lite FTTC “Fibre” Product

      Sky Mobile packages is now available?

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      Re: UK ISP Sky Broadband to Trial 18Mbps Sky Fibre Lite FTTC “Fibre” Product

      Quote Originally Posted by vfx View Post
      Sky Mobile packages is now available?
      Not yet

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      Which is a shame as I'm just out of contract with Three. But having said that, I just negotiated a great new deal for £8 per month (600 mins + 1GB data + unltd texts on a rolling 1 month).

      So my options are reasonably open should Sky eventually reveal something interesting!

      Hopefully it will be soon (with my shareholder hat on, I regret to say that Sky were way too slow to decide to get on the quad play wagon and it's taking far too long to catch up with it - digits should have been extracted a few years ago now!)
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      Re: UK ISP Sky Broadband to Trial 18Mbps Sky Fibre Lite FTTC “Fibre” Product

      16 June has come and gone, and I haven't seen any further news. I'm interested to know whether the trial has gone ahead. Did the list of cabinets get published?

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      Re: UK ISP Sky Broadband to Trial 18Mbps Sky Fibre Lite FTTC “Fibre” Product

      Did you contact Sky to see if you could be included or did they write to you?

      I suspect that they would have written to potential clients. This way they would have targeted those who would benefit the most from switching to an FTTC product.

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      Re: UK ISP Sky Broadband to Trial 18Mbps Sky Fibre Lite FTTC “Fibre” Product

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Did you contact Sky to see if you could be included or did they write to you?

      I suspect that they would have written to potential clients. This way they would have targeted those who would benefit the most from switching to an FTTC product.
      I didn't know anything about it until I found this thread yesterday. I haven't done anything or been contacted by Sky (yet). Since I usually find shaving with a blunt razor more productive than trying to have a meaningful conversation with Sky, I figured it would be useful to get up to date news here before going any further . I've searched on Google and found nothing newer than the April press release, which suggests nothing more has happened.

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      Re: UK ISP Sky Broadband to Trial 18Mbps Sky Fibre Lite FTTC “Fibre” Product

      Re-reading the April press release it would appear that suitable customers can be signed up for the trail at any time between 15 June and 14 December 2016 but as minimum contract length is 9 months and pricing is per annum the product itself will live on beyond the December date whether the trial is successful or not.

      Thinking about it realistically once an end user has a speed capped FTTC service (barring faults) no extra work is required to continue providing the service. The only unknown is whether Openreach will continue to provide this product to communication providers for an annual rental of £48 (Excluding VAT).

     

     
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