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    Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

    This is a discussion on Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband within the Sky news and announcements forums, part of the SkyUser Announcements category; sorry if my comments are silly but I am just in a good mood thats all. anyway yes fttc i ...

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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      sorry if my comments are silly but I am just in a good mood thats all. anyway yes fttc i suppose is ok for the minute but fttp/h would be awsome


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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Plus Net are in the business of reselling BT Wholesale products.

      Sky is aiming to sell products for their own network.

      Plus Net use the BTW backhaul.

      Sky uses the BT backhaul for the Connect product, but their own for the Home Lite & unlimited products.

      Judging by recent posts, it appears that Sky have been busy upgrading the backhaul so that when they finally do launch a fibre product range, the backhaul can cope with the extra traffic and not require any peak time management.

      For those that can remember, BT Infinity did experience major issues with a very slow connection at peak times.
      Hi, Plus Net is owned by BT isn't it ? That explains why they are in on the FTTC roll out and offer a re badged BT product.

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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      All this talk about sky upgrading the backhaul for vdsl2

      they havnt done nearly as much as people seem to think
      all that was swapped out is the end modules

      they have simply removed the 10 gig modules and replaced them with 100 gig ones
      in the same manner as removing a 10/100 switch and replacing it with a gigabit switch
      the the actual fibre is unchanged

      this may well have been needed anyway due to user expansion
      to maintain the network at an acceptable level

      and is the easiest and cheapest option
      it gives 10x the bandwidth without laying a single metre of new cable

      dont get me wrong its nice to see sky first to jump on the 100 gig backhaul wagon

      but could have nothing at all to do with vdsl2


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      WDM (wavelength division multiplexing) equipment lets carriers send many distinct streams of traffic over the same fiber by putting them on different wavelengths. By replacing a 10Gbps interface on either end of the 893-kilometer (555-mile) link, Verizon can send 10 times as much data over one of those wavelengths without replacing any other equipment, Wellbrock said. The amplifiers that are required every 50 miles or so along the network remain the same.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Shonk View Post
      All this talk about sky upgrading the backhaul for vdsl2

      they havnt done nearly as much as people seem to think
      all that was swapped out is the end modules

      they have simply removed the 10 gig modules and replaced them with 100 gig ones
      in the same manner as removing a 10/100 switch and replacing it with a gigabit switch
      the the actual fibre is unchanged

      this may well have been needed anyway due to user expansion
      to maintain the network at an acceptable level

      and is the easiest and cheapest option
      it gives 10x the bandwidth without laying a single metre of new cable

      dont get me wrong its nice to see sky first to jump on the 100 gig backhaul wagon

      but could have nothing at all to do with vdsl2


      example

      WDM (wavelength division multiplexing) equipment lets carriers send many distinct streams of traffic over the same fiber by putting them on different wavelengths. By replacing a 10Gbps interface on either end of the 893-kilometer (555-mile) link, Verizon can send 10 times as much data over one of those wavelengths without replacing any other equipment, Wellbrock said. The amplifiers that are required every 50 miles or so along the network remain the same.
      Understood, but if this this means sky isnt preparing to roll out fibre then I'd have to question their broadband strategy and reliance on adsl and adsl2 whilst the likes of virgin are driving up Internet connection speeds and BT Openreach are allowing other providers to get on the fibre bandwagon.

      Is there anything to suggest that this upgrade is nothing more than consolidating the existing network whilst not being sufficient for fibre?


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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      ofcourse its enough for a VDSL2 rollout
      all other providers in the uk are still on 10 gig backhaul or less

      take virginmedia for example theyr network is creakng at the seams

      sky had alot more backhaul than virgin before the upgrade
      nevermind after

      im quite happy with my FTTN link from sky
      if they had any sense they would swapout the dslam's for vdsl2 capable ones
      then people like myself would be able to get around 60mbit

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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      Quote Originally Posted by 146Kg View Post
      Hi, Plus Net is owned by BT isn't it ? That explains why they are in on the FTTC roll out and offer a re badged BT product.
      Many other ISPs are also reselling BTW FTTC products.

      One ISP that I used to be with (Eclipse) has been reselling Fibre for some considerable time now. They are owned by KCOM PLC (Kingston Communications ).

      Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro: Connected at 80,000 kbps / 20,000 kbps
      Previous ADSL2+ Speed 19999 kbps 1153 kbps, Line Attenuation 17.5 db 6.9 db, Noise Margin 7.5 dB 8.7 dB
      Speedtest: 17.15MB/s 0.97Mb/s Ping 31 ms

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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      Well as per my previous posts two Openreach engineers in my area seem to believe that Sky are making final arrangements for a fibre broadband launch.

      As Alcatel Lucent/Sky network services engineers have been frequent visitors to various exchanges in the area installing new equipment,large blocks of extra ports which would be just for fibre customers,cabling along with upgraded backhaul to central network enough I am told enough for 5,000 new ADSL customers in an area with less than 9000 total properties.

      The cabling work that has been done even though not connected to anything would be the work required to fit into Openreach network for VDSL and would just be a case of Openreach connecting it up there side of exchange.

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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      This is good news uno. I wonder how this reflects across the country with other exchanges that have Fibre installed?

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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      yea but all sky have to do is say to bt im launching a product activate it hehe

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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

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