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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      well sky will have to do something for fibre they cant sit on our 20mb package forever. customers will leave because they will be sick of waiting.


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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      Quote Originally Posted by deadman1984 View Post
      well sky will have to do something for fibre they cant sit on our 20mb package forever. customers will leave because they will be sick of waiting.
      That's not strictly right mate.

      Why would thousands of customers leave Sky because they don't offer fibre?

      Some people will leave for sure, but not everyone. Sky are piling on the broadband punters, just look at their trading results etc

      The only way that will happen in huge quantities is if fibre becomes cheaper than normal broadband.

      Not everyone needs ultra fast broadband. People will stay because of the 'unlimted' or the free broadband that Sky offer.


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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      hum supose so reader

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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      Quote Originally Posted by NewsreadeR View Post
      That's not strictly right mate.

      Why would thousands of customers leave Sky because they don't offer fibre?

      Some people will leave for sure, but not everyone. .
      "Some people" will amount to many thousands for sure. Most of course won't leave Sky TV as well - so Sky would argue "job done" when cheap broadband proved an effective loss leader in the first place.

      But look at the many thousands who are signing up for fibre. They have come from somewhere! OK there are fewer than had been hoped for by the companies offering the service but nevertheless many thousands!

      The people who will leave Sky will not necessarily be the really knowledgeable ones (like us ) who went into it with their eyes open but those who were misled by all those "up to 20mb" claims who find they struggle now to stream iPlayer or watch Anytime+ movies without having to wait half the night for them to start playing. And then there are the thousands on top of that who are now buying connected TVs and STBs but finding their broadband is not up to the job.

      And then of course there are those more knowlegeable of us who already get a decent connection but who want, and are willing to pay for, more but would rather not have the hassle of changing providers. We, I will grant you, are a farily small but highly frustrated group .

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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      But look at the many thousands who are signing up for fibre. They have come from somewhere! OK there are fewer than had been hoped for by the companies offering the service but nevertheless many thousands!
      There are tonnes of ISPs out there, some are losing market share, whilst others are gaining.

      I would bet a tenner, probably 90% of people using Sky Broadband don't care or possibly don't even know anything about what fibre is.

      Sky offer free broadband, many are hooked by that offer alone. Others for the great pricing and truly unlimited experience.

      I for one am not particularly bothered about fibre, as in all honesty, I wouldn't gain anything from it. I don't download stuff as such, nor do use more than about 5gb a month I would guess. So to increase my price each month seems a pointless exercise.

      I have however, applied for the trial.


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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      Quote Originally Posted by NewsreadeR View Post
      There are tonnes of ISPs out there, some are losing market share, whilst others are gaining.

      I would bet a tenner, probably 90% of people using Sky Broadband don't care or possibly don't even know anything about what fibre is.

      Sky offer free broadband, many are hooked by that offer alone. Others for the great pricing and truly unlimited experience.

      I for one am not particularly bothered about fibre, as in all honesty, I wouldn't gain anything from it. I don't download stuff as such, nor do use more than about 5gb a month I would guess. So to increase my price each month seems a pointless exercise.

      I have however, applied for the trial.
      The only thing I am disputing in what you write is that the numbers leaving Sky over this will run to many thousands. Of course that represents a tiny proportion of subscribers!

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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      Quote Originally Posted by Restorer View Post
      The only thing I am disputing in what you write is that the numbers leaving Sky over this will run to many thousands. Of course that represents a tiny proportion of subscribers!
      No worries - I agree a few thousand yes probably, maybe a few tens of thousands, but by the time they do, I would bet, a few hundred thousand new punters had become customers of Sky.

      I remember talking to someone on TBB forums who worked at Plusnet, and they had signup figures of about 58 people a day. The same time I spoke to someone who worked at Sky, and they were signing up 4k a day.

      To compete in future ISPs definitely need to up their gain, but I would still say, a lot of smaller ones will lose out.

      Pretty sure TalkTalk and VM are hemorrhaging customers to Sky heavily.

      Maybe I could have phrased what I meant more clearly.


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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      Whether or not people are leaving Sky in droves, their overall figures show that they currently have a net gain.

      However I think that we can all agree that to ignore Fibre today would be as effective as ignoring ADSL three years after its launch.

      Whether people want the speed now is not necessarily the issue. In a few years people will be using the Internet even more than they are now. The current average monthly usage is 17GB. This is figure continues to grow higher and with such increases, people will require faster connections.

      Mobile companies are improving their connection speeds. 4G is likely to deliver 100Mb connections very quickly, but it is capable of 1Gbit d/l & 500Mb u/l connection speeds according to the Wikipedia article.
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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      17MB?

      That has to be gigabytes surely?


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      Re: Sky will be looking to run trials of fibre-optic broadband

      Scubbie, don't disagree, but noone I know uses that much amount of data.

      Yes people download films, torrents etc, but no way does the average person use that much.

      This is my point, Sky are building their own network, once ready they can offer the best packages, and not be charged for high useage etc

      From looking at the posts over the last 5 years, Sky obviously do not care how much you download, as long as you buy Movies / rent Episodes etc They are quids in.


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