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Originally Posted by Hazel Cottrell
Hello Ged,
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Only time will tell…
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Welcome aboard, thanks for publishing my comment and also taking the time to register and post on here.
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Yes I may be being a little cynical!
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Cool - and not afraid to say it.
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But my point is, that Sky does still have somewhat of fair use policy. Only now it is within their terms and conditions.
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Yes to protect their network against people who abuse it. I read that as things like email spamming or FTP on your home connection, virus's etc
As for physically using it yourself for doing normal things, there are no limits.
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It’s great that Sky now says you can download “as much as you want, whenever you want”, this is definately a positive, but I think it’s important to note that they do still reserve the right to “restrict your online activities” if your downloading is considered excessive.
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You have highlighted a part of the T and C's
"restrict your online activities" but forgot to include the relevant part after it, which is,
"via Sky Broadband where such activities may have a detrimental effect on other customers' quality of service and it is reasonable for us to do so (e.g. sending "spam" Messages (see Condition 4(b)) or hosting a website)."
Sky.com - Sky Products>Broadband>Terms and Conditions
As you can see, nothing about downloading.
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So where will they will draw the line between acceptable and excessive? How much would you have to download to have a “detrimental effect on other customers’ quality of service”?
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I would assume the abuse department would do that. Note, they that they say 'restrict' - If you have a nasty virus, and that is trying to spread across Sky's network, that would be a good example of having to control or restrict a person's connection.
Same goes for setting up an FTP site on your home PC, (although Sky state website) All your friends could download off your PC 24 hours a day. The thing is though, its your connection and not your friends. Sky do not say in the contract, "your friends can download as much as you want, whenever you want"
Sky have posted it on here, and DS, stating that Max it is truly unlimited. I have no reason to disbelieve them. They would however look very stupid, when the reports of "I downloaded 3TB in a week and got cut off" start coming in, by doing this, so I guess they mean business.
Sky also state that they will not slow your connection down whilst on Max, there are very few ISP's that will not do that at the moment. This is where Sky have been smart. They know that already.
This announcement is an extra, something that we didn't have two days ago. As far as we all knew, Sky would enforce the download limits, and the FUP at some point. However, we now know that they won't on Max.
For a tenner a month, no one could possibly moan about the value, or the service, (unless of course they are having issues that are not being resolved) Its exceptional value. As well as being exceptionally reliable.
The only real contender for being classed as a threat to Sky, now, would be o2. Its obvious to me that Sky are going to hammer the announcement home in forthcoming advertising.
The cynic in me would say that this announcement is aimed at VM and their upcoming 50MB broadband. What's the point of advertising 50MB if you are going to be traffic managed, so that you could never take advantage of that capacity?
I think the most important point about this announcement, is the fact that Sky announced this, after they announced that the BPI and Six ISP's would be taking part in the warning / educating of those who download illegal content.
Therefore people are unlikely to abuse their connections, for fear of being grassed up to the BPI. After all, as stated thousands of times before, there are only so many different flavours of Linux Distros.
Effectively, leaving the thought in people's heads, that the Sky Broadband customer could get into trouble if they download the internet and other persons' Intellectual Property rights.
Sky will only get bigger now as more and more people sign up to their broadband. I would bet you a thousand pounds, that Sky's infrastructure is also going to get bigger to match.
For a tenner a month, you now have an all you can eat broadband buffet, with no limits, or FUP