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Old 19-08-08, 10:40 AM   #1
 
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anyone actually benefited from DLM?

Has anyone's speed actually increased after DLM?. I was thinking (again) of asking sky to uncap my Max connection, but reluctant if it proves unreliable, then they knock my speed back further than it is now, maybe with this DLM business (full speed from 8096/768 connection)

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Old 20-08-08, 11:44 AM   #2
 
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Re: anyone actually benefited from DLM?

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Has anyone's speed actually increased after DLM?. I was thinking (again) of asking sky to uncap my Max connection, but reluctant if it proves unreliable, then they knock my speed back further than it is now, maybe with this DLM business (full speed from 8096/768 connection)
went up half a meg since DLM!
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Old 20-08-08, 01:47 PM   #3
 
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Re: anyone actually benefited from DLM?

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Has anyone's speed actually increased after DLM?. I was thinking (again) of asking sky to uncap my Max connection, but reluctant if it proves unreliable, then they knock my speed back further than it is now, maybe with this DLM business (full speed from 8096/768 connection)
Alot of people have, you just don't hear about it.
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Old 20-08-08, 02:12 PM   #4
 
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Re: anyone actually benefited from DLM?

I'm not saying you're wrong as I haven't seen any empirical evidence but have you got any facts to back that up?

Seems to me that the only customers who could get an improvement fall into three groups:
  • customers who were too heavily capped manually
  • customers with a high sync and very high error levels but stable
  • customers with unstable connections who haven't yet been manually capped

The first is just undoing Sky's earlier heavy-handedness. The anecdotal evidence I've seen tends to show that more often than not DLM whacks an even higher cap on the connection.

The second would be quite unusual as high errors and high sync don't often go together as the router will usually train down the connection itself. There are of course connections that have a high sync but low throughput due to errors but they're rare, as again, the ADSL protocol (in this instance) has error correction and can/will retransmit unrecoverable data. If you do the maths you'll see that except in very gross cases a reduction in sync to remove errors will actually result in a lower throughput than previously. You may well see an improvement in stability and latency though.

The third would be an interesting group: they presumably feel their connection is fine but Sky takes pre-emptive action to "improve" it resulting in lower sync and probably lower throughput. You've got to be pretty confident of your algorithms to ensure that only customers who will actually benefit get this action. Again, I think there's plenty of anecdotal evidence to show that Sky didn't get that right.

In the absence of hard facts I'd certainly agree that some customers have benefited but "a lot"?
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Re: anyone actually benefited from DLM?

I for one was put onto the DLM trial. On DLM i was getting an average sync of about 3775/4496 . DLM puts the line onto ADSL2+. Although i have put myself back to G.DMT on ADSL2+ my errors were high but the line was stable. So for me the only improvement was a higher sync. Not very higher but good enough.
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Re: anyone actually benefited from DLM?

Gathering from other posts that the DLM thing has finished, and if so it seems to have passed me by - my stats are identical to what they have been since i joined. I power down the router on 9 out of 10 nights, and i dont reallywant to leave it on all the time on the off-chance that the DLM monster decides to pay me a visit.

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i dont reallywant to leave it on all the time on the off-chance that the DLM monster decides to pay me a visit.
DLM is line management, so it does not matter if your router is on or off, if you are going to get it, you will

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