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    SR101 Wi-Fi protected set up

    This is a discussion on SR101 Wi-Fi protected set up within the Sky Broadband help forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; I recently coerced Sky into sending me a new SR101 Sky Hub to replace my ageing Sagem F@ST 2504g router. ...

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      SR101 Wi-Fi protected set up

      I recently coerced Sky into sending me a new SR101 Sky Hub to replace my ageing Sagem F@ST 2504g router.

      Now I've read about Wi-Fi protected set up and how it can be cracked in under 4 hours, I'm starting to wish I hadn't bothered! I haven't taken the new router put of the box yet. Is there a way to disable WPS with this router? If not, then it's staying in its package! My current WPA2 passphrase is 18 characters long and uses upper and lower case, numbers and special characters. I'm certainly not about to entrust my network security to a 4 and 3 digit number followed by a checksum, giving only 11,000 combinations. Whoever thought up this steaming pile of cack needs to be shot!


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      Re: SR101 Wi-Fi protected set up

      wps can be switched off under wireless settings just another example of manufacturers and company jumping on new toys bandwagon

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      Re: SR101 Wi-Fi protected set up

      This was raised early on in the beta group for the SR101.

      There is a mechanism in place to prevent the attack via WPS from working easily.

      Essentially if someone tries to use the wrong code too many times, the WPS is locked out for a period of time.

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      Re: SR101 Wi-Fi protected set up

      Now I've read about Wi-Fi protected set up and how it can be cracked in under 4 hours
      This was true in the early versions of WPS, but router manufacturers have now built in safeguards to prevent easy cracking. This involves blocking the router for up to an hour after about 3 to 5 unsuccessful attempts. It can still be cracked, but it could take 2-5 months, not the few hours possible with no protection. The best advice still remains, if you don't need it, disable it.

      Just had a look and I don't think it is possible to turn off WPS, apart from disabling the wireless, which is not much good.
      Last edited by Isitme; 29-07-13 at 02:57 PM. Reason: Add info

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      Re: SR101 Wi-Fi protected set up

      Yes it can be disabled:

      http://192.168.0.1/sky_wireless_settings.html

      Scroll down to the 'Wireless Access Point' group of settings and untick the box beside 'Enable WPS'.

      As we have hopefully explained, it is pretty hard to hack the router via WPS now.

      Personally I would say that the weakess point is the default WiFi password. This is still a set of 8 capital letters for ALL Sky routers. I highly recommend changing this with all new Sky routers to something less obvious.

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      Re: SR101 Wi-Fi protected set up

      I should go to Specsavers, I only looked at the WPS part at the bottom where you would expect the enable/disable button to be.

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      Re: SR101 Wi-Fi protected set up

      No problem, easily missed.

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      Re: SR101 Wi-Fi protected set up

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Personally I would say that the weakess point is the default WiFi password. This is still a set of 8 capital letters for ALL Sky routers. I highly recommend changing this with all new Sky routers to something less obvious.
      You're not wrong there Scubbie!

      If a cracker notices a router with an SSID starting SKY, then in most cases it'll have an 8 digit network key of 8 upper case alphas. 26 raised to the power 8 = ~200 billion = a few hours with a top of the range GPU.

      I always stop my router from broadcasting its SSID (yes, I know you can still find hidden networks, but it says 'don't bother trying to crack me I know what I'm doing - move along!') and beef up the network key so that it's considerably longer and contains at least one number, upper case, lower case and special character. If Sky just made the default key 12 characters long and a combination of cases, numbers and special characters, it'd be virtually uncrackable.

     

     

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