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    This is a discussion on Whole-home internet safety .... within the Sky Broadband help forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; Has anyone got any information on this: Another step forward in keeping kids safe online The post was back in ...

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      Whole-home internet safety ....

      Has anyone got any information on this:
      Another step forward in keeping kids safe online

      The post was back in February but Iíve not been able to find anything about it since then.

      Skyís current offering doesnít cover all of our connected devices. I currently offload DHCP from the Sky router to a NAS drive and use OpenDNS to filter content. I would prefer not to have to use the NAS for this.

      Mods, wasnít sure what forum to place this in?

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      Re: Whole-home internet safety ....

      There has been some discussion of this subject within the last month: How to get the Username and Password for the Sky Hub SR101

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      Re: Whole-home internet safety ....

      Thanks for the post.

      I have sky fiber which limits my options here a little, I need something which support’s Sky’s MER implementation and allows me to change the DNS settings. I have already unlocked my 2504n but the DNS IP’s need resetting after every reboot. I tried a borrowed 7800n - for some reason I had terrible wifi performance.

      I would consider buying another router but with Sky “committing” to offer a whole-home solution back in February, I would like to see what they have planned.

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      Re: Whole-home internet safety ....

      Quote Originally Posted by dunxsta
      I have already unlocked my 2504n but the DNS IPís need resetting after every reboot.
      Would THIS POST be of any help with that?

      You'd need to install the custom firmware found HERE.

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      Re: Whole-home internet safety ....

      I had tried that before ....
      I was already on that firmware. I was rebooting using the Sagem interface. It kept losing the DNS settind.
      oddly enough - rebooting using the Sky UI seems to keep the DNS settings.

      thanks.

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      Re: Whole-home internet safety ....

      Ah, great

      I really don't know much about dns.
      Just remembered the RADZ post for some reason.

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      Re: Whole-home internet safety ....

      The problem remains that whatever the IP address of the DNS server that is provided in the router's DHCP messages users can always set different DNS servers on their clients. This would totally negate any content filtering based on DNS.

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      Re: Whole-home internet safety ....

      I'm a person who generally thinks whilst technology can help with keeping people safe, it's only one tool in the toolbox that is internet safety. I've used the OpenDNS filtering with some success in the past, and on my daughters laptop I have installed K9 Web Protection to block out the really bad stuff. However, I have spent a lot of time over the years encouraging safe use of the internet, and explaining the reasons behind what I'm suggesting.

      As an IT manager in a large school, I believe that education is the most important tool. Unfortunately some parents I have come across think because they've installed an internet safety package, they can leave their children to do anything on the web. Most kids know how to get around the software or network changes we make - and many of them helped their parents install/configure it in the first place! We have some expensive and sophisticated systems in school, but many of our pupils leave the school and have no safety measures at home - that is why schools must teach internet safety and not assume kids are safe, because it's blocked.

      Don't get me wrong, pushing out the opendns servers from your dhcp server is a sensible step, but don't rely on it to keep your kids safe.

      As for sky - eventually they'll agree to put internet safety measures on by default (like the government wants them to) and the vast majority of parents will think their young ones are safe. At that point, we could be in a worse position than we are now.
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      Re: Whole-home internet safety ....

      Quick update on my original question.

      I had a note from Sky customer serivce to say they will be launching their 'whole home' content filtering system mid November. They sent me this link: www.sky.com/shield

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      Re: Whole-home internet safety ....

      Quote Originally Posted by terrorvis View Post

      Don't get me wrong, pushing out the opendns servers from your dhcp server is a sensible step, but don't rely on it to keep your kids safe.
      If you have a firmware that allows you to modify outbound NAT/Firewall rules you can do some nasty tricks to hijack DNS requests regardless of what settings the user has entered on their computer.

      It doesn't stop VPN's/Proxies being used though.

     

     

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