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      Username and password from old router?

      Evening all

      Second post in as many minutes, please forgive me i should have added this to my last one!

      Basically before i moved house i extracted my user name and password from my old sky router, which i saved on my computer.

      After moving i found my router was faulty and was sent a new Sagecom. Now i know i cant get the user-name and password from this one just yet, but i was wondering if it would be the same as the old router? Or would sky have changed it when i moved/had a new router?

      Thanks for your help

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      Re: Username and password from old router?

      The password generator you probably used before still works with the new Sagems. Just use the 2504 entry. The algorithms used to generate the password are the same.

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      Re: Username and password from old router?

      If you did not return the old router and either still have it or binned it, then the login details may well still be usable.

      It might be worth trying them.

      If you returned the router, then it may well have been repaired and sent to someone else. I don't know if the memory would have been altered to provide the router with a new set of login details.

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      Re: Username and password from old router?

      How it works is basically the server has a list of "master" passwords, which is just a list with all logins created for each router and will connect on any sky line that has this set of "master" passwords.

      SO any sky router on any sky broadband connection will connect and gain authentication unless it has been suspended.

      Dunno about it using the same algorithim as i always heard that the algorithim used was created by netgear as it was the netgear routers, i know its skys firmware but apparently a guy from netgear thought it would be a good idea to leak the algorithim and generate a way to determine the password from the username.

      I always heard that you could flash the router, or you could use a packet sniffer to find the packets being sent back for PPP and obtain login details from it, but to be honest this is too much hassle.

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      Re: Username and password from old router?

      but apparently a guy from netgear thought it would be a good idea to leak the algorithim and generate a way to determine the password from the username.
      The algorithm was never leaked by anyone from Netgear. If you take the time to snoop around the forum you will find out who did it.

      How would an algorithm leaked by Netgear work with a Sagem router?

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      Re: Username and password from old router?

      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      The algorithm was never leaked by anyone from Netgear. If you take the time to snoop around the forum you will find out who did it.

      How would an algorithm leaked by Netgear work with a Sagem router?
      It would if it was just an algorithm for working of how to decipher the username and password.

      Although I'm sure Fuzzy would know much more.
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      Re: Username and password from old router?

      It would if it was just an algorithm for working of how to decipher the username and password.
      It is, hence my rhetorical question But the way the password is 'encrypted' has nothing to do with Netgear, it is purely the Sky firmware.

      The algorithm was cracked by James67, an old and very respected member of this forum. It is a pity he does not have the time these days to contribute more to the forum.

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      Re: Username and password from old router?

      Meh i always heard within sky it was because of Netgear.

      You know, if somone just had access to that special system, we could just put in your usernames and find the passwords in seconds....

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      Re: Username and password from old router?

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      If you returned the router, then it may well have been repaired and sent to someone else. I don't know if the memory would have been altered to provide the router with a new set of login details.
      Yes, when returned routers are refurbished they are given a new MAC address, but the old MAC address is still in Sky systems (albeit suspended)

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      Re: Username and password from old router?

      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      It is, hence my rhetorical question But the way the password is 'encrypted' has nothing to do with Netgear, it is purely the Sky firmware.

      The algorithm was cracked by James67, an old and very respected member of this forum. It is a pity he does not have the time these days to contribute more to the forum.
      I remember reading it and his picture was the clangers.
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