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    Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP?

    This is a discussion on Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP? within the Sky Broadband help forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; Originally Posted by RevXaisks I'll give that a try tonight. Before the firmware upgrade? So my router has been updated ...

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      Re: Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP?

      Quote Originally Posted by RevXaisks View Post
      I'll give that a try tonight. Before the firmware upgrade? So my router has been updated then. Just out of curiosity and reference, what version was the extraction possible?
      I wrote my "hack" for sky_1.11

      Had you needed to obtain the password, it still might be possible to temporarily downgrade, by putting the router in update mode and using the dlink firmware on the CD, but only if the current firmware doesn't block doing that. Flashing can be risky though, as can restoring this particular router's configuration settings from a back up, or so I've found!


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      Re: Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP?

      Quote Originally Posted by fuzzy logic View Post
      I prefer a dynamic IP address myself, for reasons of privacy especially while browsing and for avoiding excessively targeted and repetitive advertising. Still Sky's IP addresses have never been that dynamic - I think for a long time only the last octet of mine would ever change, and you can identify which exchange and therefor which town from a user's IP address.

      Also when I had a free static IP address with an ISP in the past, I was targeted with DOS attacks by a usenet troll.
      Well, I took your advice. It seems my IP address was "very sticky" indeed.
      Turned the router off for a good 6 hours.

      It's now a new IP.

      Quote Originally Posted by fuzzy logic View Post
      I wrote my "hack" for sky_1.11

      Had you needed to obtain the password, it still might be possible to temporarily downgrade, by putting the router in update mode and using the dlink firmware on the CD, but only if the current firmware doesn't block doing that. Flashing can be risky though, as can restoring this particular router's configuration settings from a back up, or so I've found!
      I did extract the username and password prior. I just have to find it..... it's somewhere in this hard drive. Lol.......

      Even if I do, with the connection being a MER. Say I do use a router, spoof the mac address on the unit. Use the username and password. The router will connect using PPPoA, but the line is still on MER. Right?

      Would it even work?


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      Re: Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP?

      I don't think PPPoA will work if the line is configured to MER.

      It might be worth trying to configure your own router under PPPoE. Encapsulation can be set to either PPPoE LLC or PPPoE VC-Mux on my old Edimax router. Both allow for MAC spoofing.

      Since my connection hasn't been changed to MER, I can't test the settings.

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      Re: Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP?

      Quote Originally Posted by RevXaisks View Post
      Well, I took your advice. It seems my IP address was "very sticky" indeed.
      Turned the router off for a good 6 hours.

      It's now a new IP.



      I did extract the username and password prior. I just have to find it..... it's somewhere in this hard drive. Lol.......

      Even if I do, with the connection being a MER. Say I do use a router, spoof the mac address on the unit. Use the username and password. The router will connect using PPPoA, but the line is still on MER. Right?

      Would it even work?
      Sky are using a different Virtual Circuit for MER based connections (VCI = Virtual Circuit Indicator), so I think it quite likely that you would be able to connect using either, but the only sure way to find out is to try it with a non-sky router.

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      Re: Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP?

      Quote Originally Posted by RevXaisks View Post

      I did extract the username and password prior.

      Even if I do, with the connection being a MER. Say I do use a router, spoof the mac address on the unit. Use the username and password. The router will connect using PPPoA, but the line is still on MER. Right?

      Would it even work?
      Not sure if this will be helpful to you.

      I was using the D-Link router that Sky send out, but noticed a small drop in my download speeds since Sky upgraded the firmware on the router to 2.04, and when this update to 2.04 happened I was also switched on to MER (previously I was on PPPoA).

      A while back I had extracted the username and password from the D-Link router, so I used these in my Netgear DG834GT (which I used to use with my old ISP before I moved to Sky). I entered the username and password into the appropriate section on the DG834GT setup page and I spoofed the ADSL MAC address to the same one that the Sky D-Link router uses.

      Now my connection (with the Netgear) shows PPPoA again, and I have seen my download speed increase to the level I was seeing prior to the 2.04 firmware update and the move to MER on the Sky D-Link router.

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      Re: Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP?

      I have another reason I would like to get back to the PPPoA connection.

      My company set up an L2TP server for our VPN connection into the network. For whatever reason, after a day or so, the L2TP connection will fail to establish. If I rebooted my D-Link router and was assigned a different IP address, then the L2TP connection would work for another day or so. I would just keep doing this as a work around since no one could figure out why this was happening.

      Now that Sky changed my connection type to MER, rebooting the DSL router does not get me back my L2TP VPN any more.

      Of course the real answer is to figure out why the L2TP connection starts failing to establish properly. No one can pin point the issue with Sky but it sure seems odd that after a while, the currently assigned IP Address to our DSL router seems to be the problem. Smells like someone is blocking the address.

      I guess I have two options:
      1) Continue to diagnose tcpdumps and learn the gory details of L2TP.
      2) Try to force the DSL router to give me a new IP Address. (I'd rather not turn off the DSL router every night just to get a new IP Address)

      Any other suggestions are welcome.

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      Re: Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP?

      Quote Originally Posted by spuds View Post
      I guess I have two options:
      1) Continue to diagnose tcpdumps and learn the gory details of L2TP.
      2) Try to force the DSL router to give me a new IP Address. (I'd rather not turn off the DSL router every night just to get a new IP Address)

      Any other suggestions are welcome.
      How about #3?

      DynDNS.org?

      Most routers (including Sky's) support this. Normally within a few minutes of your router reconnecting, it will automatically update the DynDNS server.

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      Re: Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP?

      Not sure how this would help?

      The issue is having a permanent IP Address vs. being able to force getting a new IP Address by rebooting the DSL Router.

      DynDNS is simply a tool to help pin a DNS name to a dynamic IP Address.
      From what I've seen in this thread and a few others, some folks don't want a Permanent IP Address assigned to their DSL router.

      I wouldn't care which one I had if the L2TP connection would reliably connect using either one.

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      Re: Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP?

      Funny how other ISPs charge you for a static IP whereas on Sky you're getting it free!
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      Re: Network type changed to MER. No longer Dynamic IP?

      I was thinking the same. :-)

      I would think this was a good thing if I could just get the #@#$% L2TP stuff working with a permanent IP address.

     

     
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