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    LLU Speeds v. ADSL2 Speeds

    This is a discussion on LLU Speeds v. ADSL2 Speeds within the Sky Broadband help forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; @Wheeli @SatDish Thanks for clarifying this.. So SKY will only take on customers that have a Line to their local ...

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      @Wheeli @SatDish

      Thanks for clarifying this..

      So SKY will only take on customers that have a Line to their local exchange that is LLU enabled.
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      Not at all thats what the Connect package is for so they can offer any customer who want to change that option and once or if there exchange is LLU enabled they will then be moved over free of charge to the Mid package I believe.
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      Sorry, may be being a bit thick here - just want to check my understanding.

      I'm currently trying to decide between Mid and Max package. My line stats (ATT=48, SNR=7) suggests that I'm not going to get over 8Mbps so I was favouring the 'Mid'.

      I had assumed the only difference between the Mid and Max packages were the potential speeds and the download caps but that they were using the same technology.

      But, these posts say that Mid uses 'ADSL2' whilst Max uses 'ADSL2+' - Is that correct?

      I've also seen the graph and at my distance from the excahnge there would be little difference but there maybe some.

      So is it true to say that even if my speed is less than 8Mbps it is possible that it may be slightly better with the Max than with the Mid.

      Are there any other advantgaes of ADSL2+ over ADSL2 - stability, ping times etc.

      Cheers,

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      @ nheather

      Thats what i've been wondering about too...

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      "So is it true to say that even if my speed is less than 8Mbps it is possible that it may be slightly better with the Max than with the Mid.

      Are there any other advantgaes of ADSL2+ over ADSL2 - stability, ping times etc."

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      Seems to be no advantage in my case (43 db attenuation, 6db noise). Sync is actually less than what I had on BT MaxDSL.

      I am on Max and Easynet LLU enabled.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nheather View Post
      Are there any other advantgaes of ADSL2+ over ADSL2 - stability, ping times etc. Nigel
      No - they employ the same error correction and dynamic multitone band selection algorithms. The only difference is that the latter has a higher maximum frequency - double that of ADSL2. Over short distances, this equates to roughly double the bandwidth. Over long distances, the high frequency stuff degrades quite quickly, so the benefits of ADSL2+ get less and less. ADSL, OTOH, is more like you old PSTN modem: dial up, get max speed, try to stick to it, if signal drops, tough - you'll have to reconnect. ADSL2 is: dial up, get max speed for given signal, if signal falls, slow down to bring signal back up. Problem is: on Sky, (or the Netgear kit), it doesn't seem to work as well as the algorithm says it should! Which is why you should listen to theoreticians like me.

      EDIT: YIKES! The last sentence was supposed to say "shouldn't", not "should". OMG - I must have sounded like an arrogant buffoon!

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      This is all very confusing, mossywells's explaination for ADSL2+ sounds more like how I thought ADSL max works, i.e. it is "rate adaptive". ADSL2 sticks with what it finds at the time of initialising, which is why our connections "drop out" as the line quality varies. Do we have anyone on here who really understands the various ADSL variants?

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      Someone that understands it? Yup - there are lots that post here regularly. Someone that understands it and that'll you'll believe and trust? Ah well, now that's only something you can answer.
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      Sorry Mossywell, you obviously understand it a lot better than me.
      At what sort of distance do the benifits of ADSL2+'s higher frequencys die?

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