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    IPv6

    This is a discussion on IPv6 within the Sky Broadband (Fibre) Help forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; Noticed last night that IPv6 appears to have gone full on active for me - it's now the default. Widespread ...

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      IPv6

      Noticed last night that IPv6 appears to have gone full on active for me - it's now the default. Widespread rollout or just customers on fibre/new kit?
      Last edited by MagicBoy; 28-05-16 at 12:57 AM. Reason: Typo


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      Re: IPv6

      My line was upgrade (finally!) to IPv6 the other day too.

      Currently the DNS server is still an IPv4 service, which is kind of strange.

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      Re: IPv6

      Is that a good thing? What is IPv6 and how do I know if I have it?
      As you can probably tell, I'm not very techy.

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      Re: IPv6

      Why a new thread?

      There's already a rolling thread for IPv6 roll-out discussion which has been running for over a year.
      Please note the views and recommendations in my posts are my own and in no way reflect the views of Sky

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      Re: IPv6

      Sorry. Did a search, didn't find anything. ��

      How about a link to the thread instead of criticism?

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      Re: IPv6

      Bubblegun included a link in his respense .

      You may also wish to read this thread: http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/ipv6/...what-ipv6.html

      As for whether IPv6 is good or bad, it depends on your perspective. The system you've been used to (i.e. 192.168.0.1 ) is known as IPv4. It's based upon 4 blocks of numbers. Each number is in the range 0 to 255. Simple to use and simple to remember.

      The new system, IPv6, is made from 8 blocks of numbers. For our human brains we use the hexadecimal system to represent the numbers in each block (0 to FFFF). Not so simple to remember.

      However the upgrade has been forced upon us for good reason.

      The number of addresses that IPv4 can refer to is a total of around 4.3 billion (232). With IPv6 we can refer to considerably more (2128 or 3.4*1038).

      With the current popularity of the Internet, the number of addresses that can be referenced with an IPv4 address ran out a few years ago. Since then more and more organisations have made the move to IPv6.

      Sky started working on this a few years ago. There was a lot of public testing over the past couple of years. Sky is finally moving the remaining people across now.

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      Re: IPv6

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Bubblegun included a link in his respense .

      You may also wish to read this thread: http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/ipv6/...what-ipv6.html

      As for whether IPv6 is good or bad, it depends on your perspective. The system you've been used to (i.e. 192.168.0.1 ) is known as IPv4. It's based upon 4 blocks of numbers. Each number is in the range 0 to 255. Simple to use and simple to remember.

      The new system, IPv6, is made from 8 blocks of numbers. For our human brains we use the hexadecimal system to represent the numbers in each block (0 to FFFF). Not so simple to remember.

      However the upgrade has been forced upon us for good reason.

      The number of addresses that IPv4 can refer to is a total of around 4.3 billion (232). With IPv6 we can refer to considerably more (2128 or 3.4*1038).

      With the current popularity of the Internet, the number of addresses that can be referenced with an IPv4 address ran out a few years ago. Since then more and more organisations have made the move to IPv6.

      Sky started working on this a few years ago. There was a lot of public testing over the past couple of years. Sky is finally moving the remaining people across now.
      Will this mean the end of NAT routers?
      It has been speculated that with so many addresses that EVERY device will have a unique address so illegal file sharing willl be dead. Are ISP's going to implement this or will there still be IPv4 and NAT behind ISP devices until everything supports IPv6?
      Last edited by bubblegun; 28-05-16 at 12:41 PM. Reason: doesn't seem relevant to other thread
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      Re: IPv6

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Bubblegun included a link in his respense .
      Odd, the link wasn't showing blue. Honest!

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      Re: IPv6

      Quote Originally Posted by bubblegun View Post
      Will this mean the end of NAT routers?
      It has been speculated that with so many addresses that EVERY device will have a unique address so illegal file sharing willl be dead. Are ISP's going to implement this or will there still be IPv4 and NAT behind ISP devices until everything supports IPv6?
      Good question. I don't really know at this time. Certainly at the present time many of my devices are showing both IPv6 and IPv4 addresses on the Q Hub. Sky's DNS server still seems to be stuck on IPv4, which is sad.

      As for unique IP Addresses, I think that could be a myth with the current set up. Yes it should be possible. Yes it could work this way. However I suspect that Sky hasn't fully implemented this measure and it might not be the only ISP to work this way.

      Quote Originally Posted by MagicBoy View Post
      Odd, the link wasn't showing blue. Honest!
      No problem. There is a whole section dedicated to IPv6 though. I hope the threads we've linked to have helped.

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      Re: IPv6

      It wont kill NAT and ipv6 still even uses NAT.

      Filesharing? well it may make it easier to track devices but it wont kill it.

     

     
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