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    Why is broadband in the UK so bad?

    This is a discussion on Why is broadband in the UK so bad? within the Sky Broadband feedback forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; emrobin Hi As probably been said. The Connect package is a Bt Re-Badged product which Sky have over Subscribed and ...

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      Re: Why is broadband in the UK so bad?

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      Hi As probably been said. The Connect package is a Bt Re-Badged product which Sky have over Subscribed and not enough bandwidth hence the Traffic Shaping which has not worked so the connect package is being Throttled. I like the U.S. idea as you say of Hughes Net satellite (though you can get broadband in rural areas through Hughes Net satellite). I think thats the future of Broadband and will benefit everyone especially small rural area`s which can only get a Bt Re-Badged product from any ISP. The Connect package of up to 8MBs depends on the distance from your exchange to your Address as you probably know the further you are away from your local exchange the slower your speeds


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      Re: Why is broadband in the UK so bad?

      The big problem with broadband via satellite is the latency, this is usually around 1200-2000ms which doesn't sound much but it means you cannot use it for most gaming or VOIP or any other low latency apps.

      Also the cost is high especially if you require an up and down link. Not really an option for home users unless you really need a fast connection.

      The best option for these areas would be some sort of community mesh system.

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      Re: Why is broadband in the UK so bad?

      Quote Originally Posted by emrobin View Post
      It depends on what you consider the average speed, the advertised speed or the actual speed that you get with the line? Take my line for example, it's an 8Mb line, but I'm lucky to get 75Kbps out of it most days. My 7Mb line in the US wasn't 7Mb either, but it was 4Mb at its slowest. The UK may lead the US in availability of broadband, but I think that is largely for two reasons. One, many UK ISPs offer broadband service, but don't deliver on broadband speed. Sky and BT are two classic examples of this. They call it broadband when it really isn't. Two, the US is enormous and therefore at a major disadvantage in getting the entire nation on broadband because of how much infrastructure is needed to support such a large country (though you can get broadband in rural areas through Hughes Net satellite).
      I was talking about "actual" download speed and it's well documented that the US are pretty poor in regards to this. Your experience isn't typical as I understand the average download speed in the US is a little over 2mbps.

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      Re: Why is broadband in the UK so bad?

      Quote Originally Posted by neilmcl View Post
      I was talking about "actual" download speed and it's well documented that the US are pretty poor in regards to this. Your experience isn't typical as I understand the average download speed in the US is a little over 2mbps.
      The US numbers are definitely overly affected by rural areas where American ISPs haven't spent the money to build up the infrastructure because they've deemed it wasn't worth it. However, if you live in a metropolitan area, the speeds are definitely better than 2Mb.

      My experience is pretty typical based on my circle of friends and coworkers. Most are having similar experiences with UK broadband. I do have two co-workers who are on the opposite end of the spectrum as they live in an area that is supported by Virgin Fibre broadband. Very lucky fellows, much like those in the US that are supported by Verizon FiOS.
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      Re: Why is broadband in the UK so bad?

      How to turn a world leader into a fourth-rate broadband economy ? The Register Suggests that the avg dl speed in the US is 5.1Mb

      thinkbroadband :: Broadband speeds across the UK shows for the UK it's at 3.2Mb (albeit the data being 12mths old).http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/features/brspeeds

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      Re: Why is broadband in the UK so bad?

      I was looking at a report from 2008 which had the average at 2.3mbps (previous year was 1.9mbps). 5.1mbps is a huge increase in only 12 mths, I would question its accuracy.

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      Re: Why is broadband in the UK so bad?

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      Hi one of the problems with Virgin is you get fibre up to the street Cabinet box if you are lucky then to your home it is copper same problems as Bt. There are even threads about Virgin media Throttling their Customers.
      they live in an area that is supported by Virgin Fibre broadband.
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      Hi Smithy
      The best option for these areas would be some sort of community mesh system.
      now that sounds good. Need some more explanation though, you never know someone reading their daily browse of Skyuser. from one of the ISPs might think thats a good Idea

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      Re: Why is broadband in the UK so bad?

      Quote Originally Posted by steve16751 View Post
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      Hi one of the problems with Virgin is you get fibre up to the street Cabinet box if you are lucky then to your home it is copper same problems as Bt. There are even threads about Virgin media Throttling their Customers.
      Interesting. My coworker must be lucky. His 20Mb line actually provides 16Mb down. Oh how I would love to have 16Mb down. Heck, I'd be happy with 2Mb down, which is half of what Sky told me I would get.

      The way DSL is configured in the US, at least in areas I've lived and had DSL, it's a dedicated line. No sharing of bandwidth. So everyone on your street could have DSL and it wouldn't matter if you were all on or you were the only one on. Your speed wouldn't be affected. Now our cable broadband was exactly like the aDSL here. The more people on, the less bandwidth there is to go around. I'm even thinking about moving house to a house with better broadband options. I have noticed that the line coming into my house goes into an older looking box and then another wire comes out of that box and into my BT Master Socket. I opened the old box and it is a rats nest in there. I have coworkers who work phone systems for the military. I may have one of them come and rewire it. Perhaps my speed will increase to an acceptable level once the rats nest of wires is gone.
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      Re: Why is broadband in the UK so bad?

      If sky estimated that you would get more than you do, then it sounds as tho you have significant wiring issues.

      The problem in the UK, is that the majority of people blame the ISP for poor speed when the actual culprit is the owners own internal wiring.

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      Re: Why is broadband in the UK so bad?

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      I assume you're talking about one of these: http://www.telephonesuk.co.uk/images/52a.jpg

      If you can wire a plug then you'll find it no problem replacing it with a new NTE5a master socket, in fact it's easier. Be aware though, there are legal issues with tampering with the incoming BT line, ie, you're not allowed to, however that doesn't really stop people from doing so.

     

     
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